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Hello budgie lovers!

I have two budgies, bought from a pet shop in December. Mickey (green) still has a pale blue cere and I'm not entirely sure he's a boy. Max (blue) had a fully formed dark blue cere when I got him and a tag on his leg, suggesting they are from different breeders, and Max is probably older than Mickey.

I have been wondering if Max has developed scalyface. I did notice some of the other birds at the pet shop had dry and crusty ceres which I didn't realise could have been scalyface at the time. Although Mickey and Max both had clean ceres when I got them, Max's has become dry and crusty and I think he might have scalyface now.

My questions are:
1. Do you think Mickey (green) is a boy? His cere is pale blue now and is much quieter than Max.
2. Do you think Max (blue) has scalyface?
3. If he does, I saw a nearby pet shop has Ivermectin. However, although these little birdies will eat from my hand and sit on my finger if I have millet, I'm not sure how to administer drops to the back of their head as they're not tame enough for me to hold them. Any suggestions? I understand Ivermectin can be applied as a precaution, so I intend to apply it to both budgies... just not sure on the practicalities of how!!

Thanks for your help, pictures are attached...

Here's a picture with Mickey too (green)
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Old 02-22-2017, 11:41 AM
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Welcome to the forums!

Indeed your Max has scaly face mites, I'm not seeing signs of mites on Mickey yet but she will also need to be treated for it.
Max is a mature adult male budgie and Mickey is a young female. Looking at her, I'd say she is about 4 and a half months old.

Since they are both relatively new to you, it would be good to book them an appointment with an avian vet specialist, there the vet will prescribe the correct dosage of Ivermectin and you will get the help with administering the drops on the back of the neck and directly into the skin. The vet will show you how it's done, so that later on you can continue the treatment at home.
Since your budgies (especially Max) will likely need more than one treatment, after each treatment it's important to thoroughly wash and disinfect the whole cage and accessories, including, perches, toys, food/water containers, etc. This is done in order to prevent a re-infestation from the mites. The play areas where your budgies have out of cage time in will also need to be cleaned and disinfected.

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I hope your budgies will soon be rid of the mites, best of luck!
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Hello and to the forums!

It's great to have you here with us Mickey and Max are adorable! I ageee that they should both be treated for mites right away.

Aluz has given you some great advice above. Additionally, be sure to read through the forum's many resources, including the Budgie Articles and "stickies" (threads "stuck" to the top of each subform for easy reference) to ensure you're up to date on the very best of budgie care. If you have any questions afterwards, please be sure to ask as we'd love to help!

Please be sure to update us when you little budgies can see the avian vet! We are all hoping your boy has a full and speedy recovery, and Mickey as well.

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Mickey and Max are adorable.
It would be best to have the vet administer the ivermectin or show you how to do it. By having the vet do it, you will not set the budgies back in their trust of you -- they simply won't trust the vet!

Otherwise, it will take two people. One to catch the budgie in a soft cloth and hold it while the other person applies one drop of the medication between the feathers on the back of the neck.

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Hi guys

Thanks for confirming its scaly face.

I called a few vets, seems the closest avian vet is quite far away and I don't drive... but I have bought the Ivermectin from a pet shop and I'll work on administering it. Thanks for the tips on holding!!

I originally thought they were both boys as that is what the pet shop told me (because both ceres were shades of blue)... but then I read online that some young females have pale blue ceres which seems to be the case here. Thanks for confirming that too!!

Fingers crossed Max (and Mickey) will be mite-free soon!
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I'm glad you were able to get the Ivermectin; I hope that their mites clear up soon!

Keep us posted on their progress

Mites like to burrow into soft things, so I would just throw away any toys with soft parts (like rope) that can't be disinfected, or throw away that part of the toy or perch. Wooden perches you can wash in boiling water and vinegar to kill any mites, and washing the cage thoroughly every day would be a great idea, too

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Do you know if freezing toys will kill the mites? Seems a shame to throw out my arsenal of soft budgie toys!

I've applied the meds, but can't see any improvements yet... I'll give it a couple of weeks and keep my fingers crossed!

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I've heard of heating up stuff to kill bugs, but not freezing...
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You would have to freeze them to a very low temperature, which may not be achievable in a home freezer.

If the toys are sturdy, you could boil them in water, which would kill the mites as well.
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Hey guys

So the good news is that the scaly face seems to have cleared up from Max' beak, there's almost no white stuff there. And the small red/pink growth that was on the right side of his beak has gone too.

However, Max seems to have developed a new yellow/beige growth on the left side of his beak. It's not very noticeable and it doesn't seem to be bothering him. I read that sometimes scaly face needs two doses of Ivermectin. The box said I can re-apply after four weeks, so I have just applied it to both of them for the second time. They hate it! I have given them lots of millet to compensate.

I'm hoping the new growth is the remainder of scaly face mites and will go with the second dose. I guess otherwise it will be a trip to the avian vet to check if it's a fungal growth!!

Please let me know if you have any ideas on this :-)

Fortunately Mickey still looks mite-free, but she got a dose too to be on the safe side.

Thanks!

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