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Old 02-23-2017, 03:02 AM
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I just posted a thread about Rio my budgie being put to sleep due to what the 'avian' vet thought was fatty liver and neurological disease.

The next afternoon I got home to find Homer, my yellow boy, doing exactly the same panting and lifting of wings as Rio! His cere also seems discoloured. Seeing Moe and Buzz were not doing it and due to what had happened with Rio I did not put it down to the summer in the tropics and rang a DIFFERENT vet immediately. Homer was mouth breathing the whole time and getting worse. Luckily the vet was still open (only just) and when I told the receptionist what had happened to Rio she said to bring Homer straight in.

This is an avian vet I have seen before and what a difference. I felt so bad I had Rio put down after seeing this vet and wondered why I didn't get a second opinion. Hindsight .....

She weighed him and he was 40g, healthy. She showed me how to feel his liver, which was not enlarged (told her about Rio having supposed fatty liver). Said his faeces were not looking like any liver disease and looked healthy. Healthy vent, good keel etc.

Long story short she said it seems to be a respiratory tract infection and to save doing bloods on him which were expensive (since I'd spent hundreds already on Rio) and to cover all the bases she would given him a Doxycycline injection for things like chlamydia and other things as well.

Good news is he is so much better the next day. He is to go back for an injection for several more weeks once a week.

She mentioned environmental factors as a possibility for the difficulty breathing. I have a new cleaner who uses BLEACH in the showers and I only thought of it later that the birds have out of cage time in my sister's room every weekend and basically sit on top of her shower the whole time

So I'm wondering could bleach cause a respiratory infection that responds to antibiotics?? I just don't want my other birds getting sick as well (so far they are all good).

Any ideas? I'm so glad he's responding to the antibiotic injection but with just losing Rio and now Homer sick I'm so confused and have very mixed thoughts and emotions. Any insight appreciated.

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Old 02-23-2017, 04:29 AM
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Hi Madonna, so sorry to hear about Rio. Hopefully, you've caught Homer in time and I'm glad to hear he's improving.

'Can bleach cause a respiratory infection that responds to antibiotics?' I'd guess that indirectly, it probably could. We all know that fumes of most kinds can be detrimental to a budgies delicate respiratory system, furthermore, if the bleach wasn't completely rinsed away, they could possibly have drank some diluted bleach drops - whether drank or inhaled, I'd expect (like in humans) that it could cause burns. Whilst bleach kills fungi, bacteria & viruses; a raw area can become an easy portal of entry for infection. Even if the fumes just irritated their airways, using extra effort to cope with that inflammation leaves them more susceptible to other illnesses.

You seem to have found an avian vet that you trust and that's a great asset.
Wishing Homer all the best for a full recovery, and good luck having a sensitive discussion with your cleaner.

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I'm so sorry for your Rio's passing... Given how his condition has deteriorated while at the vet's, even if you had sought a second opinion, the sad outcome would have likely been the same.
Maybe Rio happened to be more exposed to the bleach causing the possible infection/poisoning to act faster and have more long-lasting damaging effects.

It's good that you found a better professional and Homer is responding well to treatment. I'm sending my best wishes for Homer's steady and full recovery.
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Madonna. I am very sorry for the loss of Rio. I am sending you some healing prayer's I hope that homer gets better soon.
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Im glad Homer is receiving treatment and I'm sending my very best wishes to him for a full recovery. My thoughts are with you and your flock during this extremely difficult time.
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I'm so sorry to hear about Rio... rest in peace, little Rio. I hope that Homer is feeling better soon!
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Rest in peace sweet Rio. It's good that you found a better vet. I hope Homer gets better soon
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Thank you everyone for your kind words and helpful insight also.

Yes, it's a very difficult time as any of you who have lost a darling bird will know. Just don't want to lose any more.
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Madonna, I'm so sorry to hear that your darling boy Homer is now sick, too. You've been given great advice and I hope that your boy feels better soon

It's so difficult going through so many jarring changes to the flock, such as the loss of your baby Rio and Homer's sickness.

I hope that once Homer gets better, things in your flock can settle down for a bit as they adjust to the loss of their flockmate

I will keep you, Homer, and the rest of the flock in my thoughts during this difficult time!
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To answer your question, Yes exposure to bleach fumes can definitely cause respiratory problems in budgies.
Their respiratory systems are so delicate that exposure to toxic fumes of that sort can affect them quite severely.

I'm very glad you took Homer into your regular Avian Vet right away and that he is currently being treated.

I'm sending prayers and lots of healing energy for Homer to have a full and speedy recovery.

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