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Hi all

I have a 1 year old adopted budgie who cannot fly and is extremely clumsy and confident despite the lack of wings.

Approximately a month ago i noticed a light pink bruise on his beak. I freaked out and googled it and saw a post here about a budgie called winter and liver disease.

The spot turned black and started to grow out but this morning i notices bruises on his nails too and i made an appointment with the vet for monday however i am after thoughts.

He is eating and playing normally however i plan to swap him to a less fat diet. He gets daily veggies and fruit but I also offer seed.

My question is...does his beak look too big?

I have attached a few pics..one of them is 2 weeks old from when the bruise was higher up.

Is it possible for him to have fallen again and injured his nails? or should i be worrying?

He is super clumsy..often hangs by the perches by his beak and sometimes i rescue him. He pays very rough and is very energetic.


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I feel like he definitely has liver disease.

He is preening excessively today too.

I am only hoping that its because i forced him to have a bath today and he HATES baths.

I looked closely and couldn't see any bumps, growths or redness..he seemed to be focusing on feathers.

He is his usual playful self when he isn't doing this.


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Old 02-25-2017, 06:25 AM
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Budgies should never be "forced" to bathe.
Budgies clean themselves by using the oil from their preen gland and preening their feathers to keep them clean and shiny.
You do not need to wash or bathe your budgie.
You can offer him a bath and see if he likes it.
You can also try misting him lightly with room temperature water to see if he prefers that.
Some budgies like to play under a faucet with a very slow gentle stream of water coming from it.
Some budgies prefer to rub or roll on wet leaves such as kale or romaine lettuce.
Some budgies love water and others do not show any interest in baths, showers or "bathing".
If your budgie prefers not to bathe or shower, that is just fine.

What type of diet do you have your budgie on?
Is he getting pellets and vegetables in addition to a high quality seed mix?

https://talkbudgies.com/articles-diet...ur-budgie.html

With regard to possible liver disease, you will need to have your budgie seen by an Avian Vet for a proper diagnosis.

Avian Vets have special training to determine the cause of symptoms resulting from illness or trauma.
This is important as "regular" vets will often overlook symptoms that are quickly obvious to an Avian Vet.
When you rely on anyone who has not had training in Avian diagnosis and care, you may be delaying effective treatment.
This can prolong suffering that may be avoidable.
The bird will often require a more intense, prolonged treatment with a poorer chance of full recovery than it would have if you seek prompt professional diagnosis and treatment at the first sign of illness.

Distinction between an Avian Vet and a Vet that "Will See Birds"

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If your avian vet diagnoses liver disease, ask him if he can provide a liquid Calorad supplement. Calorad helped one of my hens.
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Your budgie is beautiful, and he sure is a little cutie with that one beauty mark on his left cheek . Perhaps those bruises are a result of crashing or falling? That doesn't normally happen in that situation, but I suppose it can. A visit to an avian vet for blood work and professional consultation is a good idea right now. Good luck, keep us posted.
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An avian vet will be able to determine if the bruises are from a liver problem or something else. Several years ago I had a bird that came from a shelter that developed liver issues and had the bruising on the beak and one of my current birds had a bruise on his beak from an accident he had while flying with the flock. The bruises look the same in each case, your vet may do blood work to determine the cause.
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Hi there and to Talk Budgies!

You've been given great advice with regards to your little boy! He's absolutely adorable

You couldn't have come to a better place to learn even more about the very best of budgie care!

I agree that getting him checked by an avian vet is the best way to tell for sure if he has liver disease

Be sure to read through all the links provided to stay updated on the very best of budgie care as well as to familiarize yourself with the forums. If you have any questions after reading through everything, be sure to ask as we'd love to help!

We hope to see and hear more of your darling boy when you get a chance!

Keep us posted on how he's doing soon!

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Hi & to TB! Your budgie is very cute I hope he's not sick
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We wen to the vet and had a very detailed check up done.

The vet seems to think he has just taken a bad fall due to no other symptoms presented and normal healthy stools, however... I am going to treat him as if though he does have a start of liver disease, to prevent rather then anything.

I was glad to hear he is not overweight at all and his liver feels normal. The beak bruise has now completely grown out and i am just waiting to see those healthy nails again, no bruises at all.

It took me days to help him eat pallets. Nothing was working until i started shoving soaked pallets in my own mouth and then of course he wanted some. For reference, they don't taste bad.

So now we have started eating a combination of seed and pallets. I ordered milk thistle (for birds) online (paid an arm and a leg for shipping as they don't have it here in Melbourne where we live)...and have started eating raw veggies (Together as he won't eat it unless I do!)
I also purchased vitamins to add to his water, as vitamin D may be a concern and I've started placing his cage outside in the sun when it isn't too hot /or cold, or too sunny.

He seems very happy and playful and very active. He is very cheeky as you can probably tell with the food stunts. I have dried worms for protein which he is refusing to eat even if i crush them. I am NOT eating those LOL.

Lets hope we keep him this way.

PS: Isn't he just stunning
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I'm very glad to hear the vet does not believe your little fellow has liver disease. That is GREAT news!

By the way -- is his name "Cheche"?

You can give him egg food once a week for protein rather than dried worms.


https://talkbudgies.com/articles-diet...ur-budgie.html

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With a healthy diet, except for Vitamin D3, it is best not to give your budgie additional vitamins as you can actually overdose on some vitamins, especially when the budgie is eating pellets as part of his diet.
Soluvite D is a good choice for a Vitamin D3 supplement.

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I'm very glad to hear that your beautiful boy is in great health! You've been given great advice and it sounds like he's receiving the best possible care

I look forward to seeing more of him

What's his name?
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