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Default Kiwi has a lot of balding in her forehead - Concerned

I'm going to keep it simple and would like a second opinion. Kiwi is has been having some feather loss on her forehead. It started off in her left eye and now it's effecting the top of her cere. The only new thing would be that this morning it looked a lot worse than yesterday. My new bird was added into my birds cage recently but I don't think he has much to do with it. Kiwi always been a bit laid back so I didn't notice much on her eating habits. She is molting. I see just a few pin feathers on her body. But... I've never seen a budgie molt to this extreme.






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Sometimes extreme molts happen- the new bird could be stressing her, causing this extreme molt.
These should help you out some
https://talkbudgies.com/your-budgies-...ting-faqs.html
https://talkbudgies.com/articles-budg...e-molting.html
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That is really bad! Poor little one.

I agree that she could be moulting very heavily, since you say she's mouthing. However, there aren't any visible pinfeathers coming in on her forehead at the moment, which is strange.

They could be a bit slow in coming in, so I would just feed her a high-protein diet (lots of egg food!) meanwhile and if you don't see any sign of pinfeathers in a day or two, I'd take her in to the vet.

Best of luck to you and Kiwi! Keep us posted
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I agree with StarlingWings.

Hopefully it's just a harsh moult but the lack of pin feathers, clear demarcation of balding outline and the thickening of the skin makes it look a bit suspicious to me. I'm drawing more on human dermatology here as I have very little bird moult experience but I'm wondering if it could be a fungal skin condition.
As StarlingWings said, if you don't see any new pin feathers or it worsens in the next couple of days, then a vet appt would be wise.
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Sometimes extreme molts happen- the new bird could be stressing her, causing this extreme molt.
These should help you out some
https://talkbudgies.com/your-budgies-...ting-faqs.html
https://talkbudgies.com/articles-budg...e-molting.html
Best of luck to you and Kiwi!
Thank you! I will be using those to help my little Kiwi!

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That is really bad! Poor little one.

I agree that she could be moulting very heavily, since you say she's mouthing. However, there aren't any visible pinfeathers coming in on her forehead at the moment, which is strange.

They could be a bit slow in coming in, so I would just feed her a high-protein diet (lots of egg food!) meanwhile and if you don't see any sign of pinfeathers in a day or two, I'd take her in to the vet.

Best of luck to you and Kiwi! Keep us posted
YES! She has no signs of pin feathers! I plan on waiting till wednesday and If I get no pinnies by then I will call a avian vet. This is the worth its been Hopefully some eggs will be comforting for her!

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I agree with StarlingWings.

Hopefully it's just a harsh moult but the lack of pin feathers, clear demarcation of balding outline and the thickening of the skin makes it look a bit suspicious to me. I'm drawing more on human dermatology here as I have very little bird moult experience but I'm wondering if it could be a fungal skin condition.
As StarlingWings said, if you don't see any new pin feathers or it worsens in the next couple of days, then a vet appt would be wise.
I agree! I see no signs of pin feathers. I do see some behind her head bars but only 2 or 3. So, I'll be waiting in the time being. I think Wednesday will be the day I decide if I should be taking her to the vet or not. Thank you so much for replying
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Fatma,

I think Kiwi needs to be seen by an Avian Vet.
I agree with JRS that the condition does not look like a normal "miserable molt" but more like a skin condition causing the loss of feathers.

Please let us know what you find out from the vet and keep us updated on little Kiwi's condition.

Best wishes!
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Fatma,

I think Kiwi needs to be seen by an Avian Vet.
I agree with JRS that the condition does not look like a normal "miserable molt" but more like a skin condition causing the loss of feathers.

Please let us know what you find out from the vet and keep us updated on little Kiwi's condition.

Best wishes!

It could be...

I was just wondering... Can it be because of the coconut oil and olive oil treatment I did to get rid of her hyperkeratosis? It never occurred to me until one of my friends mentioned it last night. I know for a fact that none of the oil got on her feathers but maybe she got irritated because of the oil and rubbed herself to hard? or maybe it caused her a lot of stress? Maybe it fell off because of that? Now that I think about it, it might be because of me..

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That was actually the first thing I thought of when I saw where the balding occurred.

I don't believe the coconut oil and/or olive oil itself would have caused the feather loss but if she was rubbing her head in that area that may have been the cause.

Without seeing an Avian Vet, I don't think there is any way to know for sure though.
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That was actually the first thing I thought of when I saw where the balding occurred.

I don't believe the coconut oil and/or olive oil itself would have caused the feather loss but if she was rubbing her head in that area that may have been the cause.

Without seeing an Avian Vet, I don't think there is any way to know for sure though.
I'm going to wait 2-3 days because I also think it might be due to her rubbing her head on the cage bars due to the coconut oil. Her behaviour has not changed at all. She's till playful, eats and acts very normal. In few days the weather will also be good so I think it will work out well...

In the morning I gave her some boiled eggs which they all enjoyed...

I'll post an update after deciding what to do

Thank you guys

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