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Default Sodium Benzoate for Megabacteria - What is a safe dose in the hot summer months?

My two budgies are suffering from chronic megabacteria. They've gone through two rounds of megabac-s in their drinking water in the past 6 months, but their megabacteria keeps flaring up, so I am now going to administer sodium benzoate in their drinking water. However, I've read that as budgies will naturally drink more in the hot summer months, the full dose of sodium benzoate (1 teaspoon to a liter of water) can cause toxicity and death. Does anyone here have experience with administering sodium benzoate to their budgies when it was particularly hot? If so, what dosage did you use? Any advice anyone can offer is greatly appreciated.

I would really rather not have to put them on stronger anti-fungals, as I know those can be fatal. Does anyone have any other advice for treating lingering megabacteria, besides amphotericin-b/megabac-s and sodium benzoate?

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I use a scant 1/8 teaspoon of Sodium Benzoate to 10 oz of filtered water. The water is mixed fresh each time the water in their dishes is changed. In my case, twice daily.
I generally do a 30 day course of the Sodium Benzoate and then give them a break of a few weeks before the next 30 day course.

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Welcome to talk budgies. Deborah has given you some great advice that I personally also found success with. Sodium benzoate works! Please do keep us posted on your bird's progress, which can be measured most accurately with a gram scale put to use about every fourth day. It took my bird's the better part of three full week's before I could see they were gaining weight. Would love to see some pic's....
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Thank you both for the advice and the warm welcome! I've actually lurked around this forum for quiet some time now, but I will be sure to look through stickies. I really hope that sodium benzoate helps my fids recover. Btw, can I give sodium benzoate in the water as an on-going, long term treatment, as long as I give my fids a few weeks break between each 30 day treatment?
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Hi there and to Talk Budgies!

It's great to have you here with us; you couldn't have come to a better place to learn even more about these beautiful birds! You've been given great advice; I hope that the Sodium Benzoate treatment will help your little ones recover!

I would think that each 30-day treatment is an ongoing treatment, especially since it's in the water.

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Thank you both for the advice and the warm welcome! I've actually lurked around this forum for quiet some time now, but I will be sure to look through stickies. I really hope that sodium benzoate helps my fids recover. Btw, can I give sodium benzoate in the water as an on-going, long term treatment, as long as I give my fids a few weeks break between each 30 day treatment?
I generally wait two or three months between each 30 day treatment.
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Thank you so much FaeryBee, two to three month intervals between treatments sounds like a good plan! The only thing I don't understand is why one of my budgies, Charlie (he's an American/Australian budgie) always recovers much faster than my English budgie George. All I can think of is that George doesn't drink as much water in general, so he doesn't get as much medicine/sodium benzoate in his system as Charlie, especially considering that he is much larger and thus requires even more of the medicated water. I was thinking it might be necessary to syringe feed George the sodium benzoate water to make sure he gets enough of it in his system. I don't want to increase the dose in their regular drinking water so as not to overdose Charlie. Does anyone know a crop dose for sodium benzoate? Should I just mix up a regular dose (1 tsp to 1 liter of water/ 1/4 tsp to 10 oz of water) and syringe feed George a few drops of that? I'm at my wits end as to what to do to coax him to drink more.
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I personally wouldn't recommend trying to force George to drink the water from a syringe.

Does George like to bathe?
If so, use the sodium benzoate water as bath water.
If he's like my budgies, he'll drink some of the bath water and will also get some of the sodium benzoate benefits as he preens his feathers after his bath.
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They both hate bathing in their little bath (we have to mist them instead), but they will usually drink the water in it, so that's a great idea. I will definitely try it and report back. Thank you!
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Hi, I tried to give you some hints in the PM. But please listen to the wisdom of Deborah, and Randy and others here on TB. They have been truly in the trenches keeping their birds safe from illness. Boosting the immune system is my very first aid. When combined with the wisdom of the info in The Stickys.
and wisdom of your vet and your regular gram scale weights to detect abnormal
patterns in the droppings are my guide on a daily basis with daily health care.
Please feel free to ask any of us for clarification. Deborah and Randy have daily wisdom in keeping our FIDS healthy. Recovery can take a while as the birds bodies must repair tissues and this takes a lot of energy before replacing the birds normal weight.Pre soaking millet spray and fresh moist veggies are a good way to get the moisture /meds in your birds with less stress on restraining force feeding. Blessings for a full recovery on their way for your FIDs.
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