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Old 09-24-2017, 06:37 PM
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Hello everyone,
My budgie Yogi is a male and he's about 10 months old. We got hit with a really bad heat wave about 3 weeks ago and now this past week it's been getting pretty chilly at night here (mid 60s). This sent Yogi in to a really bad molt and I think this weakened his immune system. He's still getting over it and has a lot of pin feathers.

Anyways I noticed tail bobbing about 10 days ago, but wasn't too concerned. However as of 2 days ago I have also noticed a wheezing noise when he is at rest that I thought was him practicing a new noise initially, but it isn't. I have also noticed him doing the motion with his beak/tongue he does after drinking water a lot; when he isn't drinking water. I notice the wheezing when he is at rest, usually right before bed. Not after he has been playing or exercising.

He has been drinking/eating normally, and is currently running all over my laptop and chest as I type this trying to get me to play. So he has been acting normal. I have ordered Guardian Angel online and intend to make a mixture of honey/salt/water I got from this site until that arrives. Does anyone have any recommendations on what I can do?

If it doesn't improve I plan to take him to the vet however I can't really afford it.

Thanks in advance for your help,
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Old 09-24-2017, 06:52 PM
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Alex,

To help with respiratory issues, you can put your budgie’s cage in the bathroom when you run hot water through the shower so the cage is in the hot steamy air -- that will help open the airways.

Another option is to tent the cage with a sheet and place a pot or kettle of boiling water under the sheet where your budgie is unable to touch it and allow the steam to accumulate that way. If you have pure eucalyptus oil, you can put one tiny drop into the water as that will also help to clear the airways so the budgie is better able to breathe.

Using a warm mist humidifier in the room with your budgies is a great way to help ease breathing problems.

That said, the information above only helps the symptoms not the underlying problem.

The members of this forum are not trained Avian veterinary professionals and are unable to give you the proper diagnosis and treatment plan for your budgie's condition.

It is VERY important you take him to the vet.
The longer you wait, the greater the likelihood he will not have a full recovery.

Avian Vets have special training to determine the cause of symptoms resulting from illness or trauma.
This is important as "regular" vets will often overlook symptoms that are quickly obvious to an Avian Vet.
When you rely on anyone who has not had training in Avian diagnosis and care, you may be delaying effective treatment.
This can prolong suffering that may be avoidable.
The bird will often require a more intense, prolonged treatment with a poorer chance of full recovery than it would have if you seek prompt professional diagnosis and treatment at the first sign of illness.

If you do not have the funds, then borrow them from a family member or friend.
Additionally, you can ask the vet if they are willing to set up a payment plan for you.

You need to set up an "Emergency Fund" for the future so you will always have the money to get the proper treatment for Yogi if required.

https://talkbudgies.com/general-budgi...e-expense.html

I wish little Yogi a full and speedy recovery.
Please be sure to post an update regarding his condition in this thread after you've taken him to his vet appointment.
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Old 09-25-2017, 03:59 AM
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Hello FaeryBee,
Thank you for the quick reply... Every time I have been on this site you have been very helpful! I've decided I will look in to finding an Avarian specialist tomorrow and take him in ASAP regardless of expense... I have eucalyptus oil and a diffuser but am unconfident with it's purity. Do you have a brand you would recommend that you would use?

I came home and he has been his normal cheery self, he greeted me with kisses and played by running all over my chest/pillow for a long time and seems fine. What's difficult (about determining the severity) is I only notice it when he's at rest and the house has quieted down. That is when the tail bobbing is most pronounced, and I don't hear any wheezing while he's playing. However I've thought about it a lot and I don't want to take the chance, I love the little guy!

I made some of the at home electrolyte water blend you recommended (in another thread) while I wait for the Guardian Angel. I also plan on cleaning out my diffuser really well (since it had other oils in it) and if I'm confident it cleaned out the other scents well enough I will use it with just water. Do you have any other advice in the mean time? I will post updates

I have uploaded a video to youtube here...

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and again, this is only when he's at rest. He's still very active, playful and talkative. He doesn't seem to be wheezing right after playing.
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Alex,

I'm glad you are taking little Yogi to the vet!
The little guy is definitely having respiratory issues.

Only the vet can determine if it is due to air sac mites, or a bacterial, viral or fungal infection.

If it is determined to be air sac mites, the treatment protocol will be to use ivermectin or Scatt. Generally one dosage is sufficient but sometimes it will require two doses 14 days apart.

Scatt from Vetafarm for treating air sac mites and scaly mites

Please be sure to update us on his condition.
Best wishes to little Yogi
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Hello FaeryBee,
I'm in the process of finding a vet today. However there is a pet store near by that sells SCATT. Would it be a bad idea to purchase that and start his treatment before I get him to the vet? I understand you're not a veterinarian and only they can diagnose my buddy. I'm just wondering if, when done properly the medication has any adverse side effects on the bird.

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Some people will tell you it doesn't hurt to treat for mites as a preventative measure but I personally don't subscribe to that way of thinking.

I believe if your budgie has a different type of respiratory problem and you give it a strong "medicine" such as Scatt you are introducing an element into Yogi's body that may exacerbate his condition when his immune system is already compromised.

Bottom line is that if Yogi were my budgie I wouldn't want to take that risk.
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Hey FaeryBee,
I took the little guy in and turns out he had a bacterial infection. I've been giving him antibiotics for a few days and he has been acting much better! It's been really difficult to properly give him the medicine, but his tail bob is gone and I'm not hearing anymore wheezing! Thank you so much for your help, I'm sure he's going to make a full recovery! And for what it's worth... I asked him about the eucalyptus oil and he said never too use that with him. Thank you again!
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I'm so glad you took Yogi in to the vet and got the proper diagnosis and treatment plan for him.

Of course, you can go with your Avian Veterinarian's opinion with regard to the eucalyptus oil in the warm mist humidifier.

However, I assure you many members of the forum use it regularly (I am one of them and I have 12 budgies).
It works very well for both people and budgies.
You only put a couple of drops in the water and it disperses in the mist.
It in no way harms your budgie or we would never recommend it.

Best wishes to little Yogi for a full and speedy recovery.
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