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Old 04-16-2018, 04:44 PM
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Hi everyone,

As some of you may already know that Cutie suffered from megabacteria before so we have been giving her apple cider vinegar (1/4tsp in 113ml) since then every alternative days and also whenever we thought that she has become weak, like, when she has lost weight we started her on sodium benzoate.

However, Cutie has become weak again, she is currently on sodium benozate but I read somewhere that budgies with megabacteria eventuallly die even after the medicines so I am really worried and I want to stop putting Cutie again and again on sodium benzoate.

So recently I also noticed that Cutie had got bumblefoot, so I have bandaged her swings with moleskin tape and given new natural branches and also washed her feet a few times with Epsom salt but i just roughly put some amount of epsom salt in a small bowl of water am i doing this right or should I dilute it more?
But my question is that I also read that I can give Cutie probiotics and thyme tea so does anyone have any ideas about which probiotics I can give to Cutie and the proper dosage of thyme tea as I do not want to reduce the effectiveness of sodium benzoate and also want to strengthen her immune system. We have told the Vet about it but she says bringing the bird in right now when she is acting normal is not worth it as it may stress her out, also Cutie is moulting, but we will be testing her poop for megabacteria again.
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In looking back through your past threads, I see that Cutie has suffered from both AGY and bumblefoot for quite some time.

Why do you want to take her off the Sodium Benzoate when it is working for her?

What type perches do you have in her cage?
It's good that you've wrapped them to make them softer for her to stand on.

Use about 1 teaspoon of Epsom Salts per 8 oz of water to soak her feet.

If you wish to add probiotics to her diet, then I would recommend you use Avi-Bios.
Avi-Tech Avi-bios Lactobacillus Probiotics

I don't believe using thyme tea in addition to or instead of the Apple Cider Vinegar and Sodium Benzoate is going to be helpful.
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I have natural branches in her cage. So I did her poop test and currently she is fine, I am so happy. However, can I use probiotics along with apple cider vinegar or not? The only reason I wanted to have something other than sodium benzoate was so that I could use that as a backup,I read an online blog about a budgie with megabacteria and eventually sodium benzoate stopped working . Sodium benzoate is working fine though i guess since the poop test said she is fine but is it true that megabacteria doesn't always show up in the poop?

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Yes, sometimes there are "false negatives".
Keep in mind that sometimes the AGY disappears for awhile and then returns again at a later date.

As long as the Sodium Benzoate is working, I urge you to keep using it.

You may use the Avi-Bios on Cutie's food in addition to using the ACV in her water.
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