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Old 12-21-2018, 11:39 PM
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Unhappy help! my budgie seems to have an eye infection?

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I'm really worried because my lady budgie Coco seems to be really sick and I'm clueless of what it could be. It all started with her right eye but now both seem to be swollen, the feathers around them seem to have disappeared and she has some kind of mucus on the bottom of both eyes. Plus, she keeps scratching them and I have noticed she is keeping the right one closed most of the time. She is eating and doing her normal activities, but she also seems to be slower than usual, I'm not sure if it's because she is tired, or if she is not seeing properly. Here is a picture of her:


For some background, she just laid eggs for the first time (she laid six) and four have hatched. Everything seemed to be alright, she looked energetic and she was getting feed pretty well. Again, I have no idea what happened, but there are two things that I think could have some kind of influence on it. First, the last two weeks have been slightly cold. Second, I noticed that his male (my budgie Danny) tended to "chew" the droppings that she left outside the nest. After doing so, his beak remained dirty but still proceeded to "clean" Coco. He looks to love "nipping" (I'm sorry, I'm not sure if that's the word) Coco around her eyes and I'm afraid that could have turned into a routine in which bacteria have been accumulating around her eyes or something like that. As soon as I noticed of this routine, I started to clean Coco's droppings as fast as I could to prevent Danny from chewing them.

I already had a budgie problem some months ago (scaly feet), and then I searched for veterinarians who had some knowledge about budgies without succeeding. This time, I called a new vet when Coco's problem was her right eye only. He told me it was a slight infection, some kind of fungus, nothing to worry about. He vaccinated her and told me to use miconazole around her eyes for a few days. The infection should have been gone, but instead, it looks worse day by day, plus her left eye got "infected" as well. I'm trying to contact the vet again, but he has been traveling the past days.

I know the forum is no substitute for a veterinarian, but since the forum helped me a big deal last time, I was hoping that someone could instruct me, or at least guide me in what you think is happening to Coco. At least, while I find a proper avian veterinarian in my city. It has been quite difficult.

Please help, thank you.

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Old 12-22-2018, 08:59 AM
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I'm somewhat as a "less meds" person regarding treatments but with her feeding four and trips to the vets, cooler weather and eye drops, I'd try a more wait and see without treatment for the eye. She also looks to be young for breeding (or at least not in "condition" although otherwise she looks good. Raising a family, can in itself, be quite stressful. Depending on the age of the chicks now, when she's feeding them there can be a lot of their bumping her for attention while feeding inside the nest box, which could contribute to the eye issue.
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Old 12-22-2018, 07:49 PM
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At this point in time, I would suggest you use a sterile saline solution to rinse Coco's eyes out at least twice a day. You can purchase the saline solution at a pharmacy in the eye care section.
Have you called the vet that prescribed the miconazole to let him know the infection has now spread to the other eye? If not, please do so.
It is important you keep in contact with the veterinarian and update him on what is happening.
It may be that he can prescribe a different medication to use around her eyes which will help them clear up more quickly.
I do think it is important for you to find an Avian Vet or an exotic pet veterinarian that has experience in small birds so I'm glad to hear you are planning to try to find one.

How old is the youngest chick?
Please remember that when the youngest reaches about three to three and one-half weeks old, you need to remove Coco from that cage to a separate cage. At that time, Danny should care for the chicks until they are fully weaned.
It is very important you do this so Coco does not double-clutch, especially ss she isn't completely healthy.

How much research did you do before allowing your budgies to breed?
Are you certain they are not related?
How old are each of the parents?

I'm asking these questions because we want to ensure members have all the proper knowledge and experience in caring for budgies prior to ever making the commitment to allow their birds to breed. The purpose of this forum is to promote the best practices for the health and well-being of budgies.

I would suggest you replace the wooden dowel rod perch(es) in the budgies' cage(s) with natural wood perches of varying diameters to help prevent pressure sores.

https://www.talkbudgies.com/articles...ure-sores.html

Please be sure to update us, in this thread, with regard to Coco's condition.

Wishing Coco a full and speedy recovery.
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Hello, thank you for the replies!

Coco is one year and three months old while Danny is one year old. As far as I know, they are not related. Their youngest chick just hatched two days ago. I researched for a few weeks before letting them breed, I read what I could about the food, the vitamins, the hatching time and all that, but I'm pretty sure there are things I need to learn yet since I'm still a newbie.

I just contacted the vet again this morning and he told me I should buy antibiotics for her, try them for two days and see how it goes. If that doesn't work, he told me to use ivermectin.

Tomorrow I will buy the sterile saline solution to rinse her eyes and research about those antibiotics. I want to clean the nest box too, but I will wait until one week after the last egg hatches to do so.

Thank you for the good wishes, I will keep the updates.
P.S. I will also keep in mind the natural perches!
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I'm very surprised and dismayed the vet told you to buy antibiotics instead of prescribing them for you.

I strongly recommend you try contacting an Exotic Pet Veterinarian rather than buying something you find at a pet supply center.

Administering antibiotics for anything other than a bacterial infection is counter-productive and can cause more problems than they solve.

There are three types of infections common to budgies:
Viral
Bacterial
Fungal
Using an antibiotic when you don't know what is causing the problem is not the answer.
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Hello again!

Sorry for the late reply, I was waiting to see how Coco would do these past days. I decided not to use the antibiotics. The vet that told me to buy them is still out of the city and yes, he didn't prescribe them to me. I even asked at the pet store and they assure me no place would sell me the antibiotics I needed without a prescription.

Instead, I bought a sterile saline solution and vitamins. I washed Coco's eyes daily, cleaned the cage and the nest box, the cold days are over and I also kept an eye on Danny and his "routine".

As you can see, she looks so much better now!



I have stopped washing her eyes to not stress her too much, but I will keep cleaning everything weekly and wait to see if she gets a full recovering. Lastly, a budgie breeder I got to know while searching for help told me I could wash her eyes with mild chamomile tea, but I haven't tried.

Thank you so much again!
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Her eye looks much better! I'm so glad her eye cleared up on its own. The other breeder is correct, mild chamomile tea (room temperature, of course) is also a good thing to use as it has anti-inflammatory properties

You did a great job caring for Coco!
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Excellent! Good to see Coco’s eye is much better .
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