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Old 02-07-2019, 07:01 PM
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I noticed Zeezu had a tail bob and started to sleep more. She is a very active bird, so if she is having trouble breathing, longer periods of rest to recover are needed (I think).

So we took her to our avian vet. She was healthy in all respects except her tail-bobbing. So she was diagnosed with a respiratory infection and given baytril.

So here is my situation:
Birdie has been with me since Dec 2017 and never sick
Kiwi was with me from Mar 2018 - Sep 2018 - we did all sorts of testing (fungal, bacterial, ect) and nothing other than gram (-) in the swab and liver enlargement from what I recall (I was really emotional over this). Kiwi did just finished her first baby molt when she first started to get sick.
Zeezu has been with me since Oct 2018 and just finished her first molt.


I'm hoping someone might be able to answer a few questions:
1. Are there certain illnesses/diseases budgies are more likely to get around 6 months old?
2. What diseases can budgies be carriers of that are not tested in a regular vet check up?

I also want to add that there is little chance of any cross contamination since I threw out everything once Kiwi passed and started over except for the cage which I thoroughly cleaned.

The reason why I'm asking is because out of the 3 birds, one has never been sick and I've had her the longest. The second passed away after 6 months and the third is now sick.

Any insights or ideas would be greatly appreciated. This is really stressing me out...

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Old 02-07-2019, 08:35 PM
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I'm sorry to hear Zeezu has a respiratory infection.

Just like people, each and every bird is a unique individual.

Genetic makeup and the strength of a bird's immune system as well as the bird's diet all contribute to whether or not one bird is more susceptible to illness than another.

Birds that come from big-box pet stores are more likely to become ill than those obtained from ethical and reputable breeders who follow best-practices in breeding.

Why buy from a reputable and ethical breeder rather than a big-box pet store

All of my budgies came from the same reputable breeder.
Even so, I had two pass this year which were the youngest of my 9 birds.
Those two were brothers from the same clutch.
I fully believe there was something in their genetic makeup which made them more susceptible to illness than the other budgies in the flock. This can simply be the toss of the dice when it comes to the bird's DNA and no fault of the breeder.

Generally, during an Avian Physical Exam, there are no tests done for specific diseases unless there is a reason to do so.

The Avian Physical Exam

By following best practices of quarantining new birds, feeding a healthy diet, keeping your birds' surroundings safe and hygenic and obtaining Avian Vet care if/when you notice a bird is acting differently than normal, you are doing your best to give your budgies a healthy and happy life.
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I can understand how these things can be stressful. Some budgies are genetically weaker that others due to years of poor breeding by birdie mills. When a budgie is going through a molt it is a stressful period and their immune system during this period can be a bit compromised so just like with humans if your immune system is not in top notch shape you are more likely to catch a cold or flu etc., that is why it is important to have your birds on a well rounded diet and not one of just seeds, which are lacking in nutrients. In a regular vet check up it depends on how extensive a check up it is. When I get a new bird I take it in for an initial check up and usually the testing is pretty extensive, first the physical exam , then a fecal check, then bloodwork, this is where there can be a variation in what is checked. Take a look at this article which explains various tests.
https://nilesanimalhospital.com/file...ed-version.pdf
Generally disease specific tests may not be run unless there is reason to think there may be exposure to something specific. By looking at the results of a broad range of test results the vet should be able to determine if something more specific is needed.
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Thank you Debra.

It makes me feel a bit better. It just baffling. I do a quarantine, provide them with a healthy diet of veggies, pellets and seed, double check that their toys and make sure their surroundings are safe.

I just want to make sure I'm not missing something.

Thank you Cody. The article was very helpful!

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It sounds like you’re doing your part to assure Zeezu and your other birds are well cared for . Sometimes things happen beyond our control, from factors mentioned above.

Best wishes for Zeezu’s full recovery!
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Update

We had xrays done today as well as more tests. Zeezu's liver looked quite enlarged from the xrays and our vet recommended Milk Thistle.

I'm hoping it helps.

Zeezu is still quite young, around 6 months old, so I don't understand how she could already have liver issues. Plus she eats healthy (veggies, pellets, and seeds). However, this could explain why the antibiotics didn't help with the breathing problems, since the liver could be putting pressure on her lungs.

Over the past week, Zeezu has lost her appetite, stopped sleeping on her swing at night, and sleeps most of the day. Her droppings are also becoming more loose and the yellow green colour is still present.

I'm keeping her in a warm room with minimal activity and classical music (Disney instrumental) playing at a low volume. All her food cups and water cups are close to her main perch and twice a day I run the shower for steam and bring her cage there to help with her breathing.

And I think Birdie is feeling the stress of all this since she is molting again (she just finished a molt prior to this). I feel so bad because Birdie lost a friend this past September.

And thank you everyone for your support through all of this.
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A few pics of Birdie (blue and yellow) and Zeezu (yellow and green) from when Zeezu was healthy. I'm doing everything I can so we can return to this. I really hope I can make a difference and help Zeezu get better.
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Wishing all the best for Zeezu’s full recovery . You’re a good birdie parent, and Zeezu and Birdie are lucky to have you.
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Update

There is still no improvement, however, she hasn't gotten worse which is a good thing.

We have her on Milk Thistle, Fauna Flora, and Lactulose now.

I've noticed that she eats her mineral block (the most), iodine block, and cuttle bone almost more than eating anything else.

Hopefully this helps.

Thank you everyone for all your help with this. I really appreciate it.
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Another Update

Things are getting worse.

Today, she has only eaten once. I've tried millet (a really big sprig) and eating food in front of her, both of which usually works. But nothing. Just went to her cuttlebone and nibbled on that and had some water.

There are only around 5 dropping in her cage and its been 8 hour's.

She has had diarrhea for a couple days, and it started after giving her lactulose (not immediately, but a while after). The vet said to stop giving it her now and to feed her harrison's recovery formula.

I'm really scared. Is there anything I can do besides giving her the recovery formula? How can I help stop the diarrhea!? Yesterday she seemed to be doing so much better.

If anyone has any advice please let me know.
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