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Old 04-07-2020, 07:39 PM
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Default Respiratory infection (under vet treatment)

Hi group, one of my adopted budgies has never had great health. His most recent problem is a respiratory infection. In all my decades of budgiekeeping, this is a new one!

We went to our usual avian vet who prescribed Baytril and Cilofexor (eye drops that can be used as nose drops). That was March 7. It's April 7 and we're on our third bottle of Baytril. He's hanging in there!

My question is...how do you know when a respiratory infection is improving? How does the sound the bird makes change? Obviously I can't wait to hear him chirp again :-) He is more squeaky than clicky these days.

I have noticed small signs like better appetite, less clicking, more squeaking, preening, sitting on one leg. He's pooping and perching and puts up a fight when being medicated.

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Sorry your bird is ill, have you been back to the vet since the initial visit? I would expect to see improvement within a shorter period of time than a month. Were his nares clogged or did he have any discharge from them? Perhaps a different antibiotic is required. There are other things that can cause squeaking and clicking sounds, was he checked for air sac mites?
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Hi Cody, thanks for the kind wishes. Everyone is so surprised that this little guy is still around. He also has liver issues and a tumour on his front.

I agree, it does seem like a long time. I have been throwing everything I can at him to boost his health such as a heating pad (which he loves).

I was thinking that maybe he had a fungal problem since Baytril didn't seem to be doing quick wonders. When I called to say we were done the second bottle, the vet told me that the choices I had were to continue medicating or stop medicating. Eeek! He did turn a corner last week, so he just may be very slow to get better.

He was not tested for air sac mites. The vet didn't mention it :\ I just read up on it. There are three adopted budgies and they all live in a big cage. The other two haven't had any symptoms.

If we need another refill, I will see if I can get an actual vet appointment.

We have been hampered by the weather as it is still winter here and I'm reluctant to take him out. Due to COVID-19, the vet is making people wait in the car and then someone comes and takes your pet from you :-(
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Eeek for sure, I sure would not like that comment, it's not at all helpful. Poor bird, he has a lot of issues going on, is he on meds for the liver issues? Has he had a crop swab done, that would reveal any bacterial or fungal issues that may be in the crop which perhaps could spread to the respiratory tract. My vet is currently operating in the same fashion due to Covid-19.
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I hope your little fellow improves soon.
Poor guy is going through a lot.

If/when you take him in for a vet appointment, please wrap his cage securely in a warm blanket before giving it to whomever comes out to collect it at the car.

Sending lots of healing energy for your little one.
Please let us know how things progress.
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Hi friends, sorry for the late update. Life is a scramble!

Yes, little Jojo has a lot going on to begin with. He has such a strong will to live and I will honour that as long as he can.

There have been a lot of improvements with him since I started tenting and steaming his cage. He's definitely peppier. Every day that goes by it seems like there is some sort of improvement.

I finally had a chance to make a video of him breathing. He's not chirping a lot, just occasionally.

Here's the link:
https://youtu.be/ndljes9tXrM

I am thinking that there is a strong possibility of air sac mites. Last night when I changed his paper I noticed some dots running around on the bottom of the cage :-( I squished all the ones that I could see. The vet keeps prescribing two week refills and it doesn't seem very sustainable at this time.

The vet did not do a crop swab at the initial visit.

The other budgies are in good health with no symptoms of anything.

I am going to send this video to the vet and see if I need another appointment. I'll be sure to wrap the hospital cage well. I have a cardboard box with handles that fits it too. The weather is slightly getting better now.

I should add that I have had budgies for 30+ years but have never had a problem like Jojo...he's not an easy keeper!
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Here's another video where you can hear the clicking as well as a squeaky noise he sometimes makes:

https://youtu.be/MiribTrfZ0A
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Poor little guy! Please let us know what the vet has to say once he's seen and listened to your videos.

Best wishes are being sent to JoJo.
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Poor JoJo, his breathing is extremely labored, since he has a tumor, depending on the size, it could be adding to the breathing problems. Sometimes a tumor can take up space internally that is needed for breathing and the result is labored breathing, I hope the vet can offer a solution, please keep us posted.
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Hi Cody and FaeryBee, thanks for the kind wishes! Jojo had a really good quiet night last night.

I put together a bunch of videos from different viewpoints for the vet and tried to capture all the different viewpoints of his body and different sounds he makes. Sometimes he's quiet, other times not.

I also gave a list of improvements as well as things that haven't improved and emailed the bundle to the vet. I want to make the most of the future visit anyway since I won't be in the room.

Jojo definitely has a lot of things going on! I mentioned the possibility of air sac mites or that something is stuck in his crop for our next visit. He definitely had something in March as his droppings have improved.
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