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Old 06-20-2020, 07:23 AM
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Thank you. I ordered it the moment i saw the name that you mentioned and ill take note to that when applying the stuff, i have at least 3 split perches and 2 wooden swings from trixie. I put away the swings at the moment because there are ropes attached with it and to my surprise by pure curiosity i put it in the microwave for 30 seconds and i saw some mites too that's why i put it away at the moment. I was considering trying a method of trapping this critters with small tapes with sticky stuff under the cage out of reach of my budgies or applying a thin layer of cooking oil in a plastic so that when they run below the cage they will get trapped, let's see what is best before the diomatecus earth will arrive in tuesday. I returned in the mean time with seed diet because i noticed him that he also lost a bit of appetite, i even recently converted them to zupreem pellets and i was very happy and now ill have to start all over again once he starts getting well

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Personally with mites I'd throw away any rope toys or perches. Anything that can't be easily disinfected. You want to be changing the cage paper daily and washing everything down weekly. Make sure you get into all the cracks to get all the mites.

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Personally with mites I'd throw away any rope toys or perches. Anything that can't be easily disinfected. You want to be changing the cage paper daily and washing everything down weekly. Make sure you get into all the cracks to get all the mites.
I put away already the wooden swings but my split perches aren't because i don't have any more perches. I won't use the plastic ferplast perch as i notice they hurt their feet. Some questions i have to ask and i will put it here
1. You did mention to put diomatecus Earth in split perches, is it safe if i leave it with them with the product i ordered or do i need it put it away from them when applied? Will wash it later or leave it be
2. I applied the anti mites droplet that i bought in my local shop. do mites inside his trachea will eventually die?

They have some apple cider vinegar in drinks to support my baby and im still waiting for the miracle to work. I heard hirm chirp again yesterday and he is also vigilant, only at night he starts to get tortured by those hellish mites and i hear him lament while preening.

As that product there wasn't indicated some formulas i am bit doubting. I didn't used my other spray but it is organic made from neem oil and aloe vera. I'm getting impatient as i also suffer and cried seeing my little one like that,he gone through a lot and he is like a son to me.

I am considering purchasing a vapor cleaner in the future to use it in the cage and house cleaning. Does some of you guys recommend it or will i only bust my budgie savings bank?

Thank you so much. It is my first time in 4 years of taking care of my children that
I encounter this problem and that is why I have a lot of questions. I pardon you if im paranoid but i can't stop worrying about them, maybe it's a budgie parent thing


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Old 06-20-2020, 10:47 AM
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I put away already the wooden swings but my split perches aren't because i don't have any more perches. I won't use the plastic ferplast perch as i notice they hurt their feet. Some questions i have to ask and i will put it here
1. You did mention to put diomatecus Earth in split perches, is it safe if i leave it with them with the product i ordered or do i need it put it away from them when applied? Will wash it later or leave it be
2. I applied the anti mites droplet that i bought in my local shop. do mites inside his trachea will eventually die?

They have some apple cider vinegar in drinks to support my baby and im still waiting for the miracle to work. I heard hirm chirp again yesterday and he is also vigilant, only at night he starts to get tortured by those hellish mites and i hear him lament while preening.

As that product there wasn't indicated some formulas i am bit doubting. I didn't used my other spray but it is organic made from neem oil and aloe vera. I'm getting impatient as i also suffer and cried seeing my little one like that,he gone through a lot and he is like a son to me.

I am considering purchasing a vapor cleaner in the future to use it in the cage and house cleaning. Does some of you guys recommend it or will i only bust my budgie savings bank?

Thank you so much. It is my first time in 4 years of taking care of my children that
I encounter this problem and that is why I have a lot of questions. I pardon you if im paranoid but i can't stop worrying about them, maybe it's a budgie parent thing


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1. You can leave it on the perches it's not harmful if ingested by the birds.

2. I'm not 100% on the ingredients of what you used but generally speaking a mite treatment will treat internal and external mites. It might be best to confirm this with the company who makes it though to be sure.

I would avoid using multiple products at the moment.
Apple cider vinegar is good for their overall health and crop health but I don't believe it treats mites.

As for plastic perches I always keep some for quarantine cages and incidents with mites as you can easily clean them and disinfect after use. However I would not use them otherwise.

I wouldn't use any sprays on or around him.

As for vapour cleaners I'm not sure what you mean?
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Old 06-20-2020, 11:01 AM
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1. You can leave it on the perches it's not harmful if ingested by the birds.



2. I'm not 100% on the ingredients of what you used but generally speaking a mite treatment will treat internal and external mites. It might be best to confirm this with the company who makes it though to be sure.



I would avoid using multiple products at the moment.

Apple cider vinegar is good for their overall health and crop health but I don't believe it treats mites.



As for plastic perches I always keep some for quarantine cages and incidents with mites as you can easily clean them and disinfect after use. However I would not use them otherwise.



I wouldn't use any sprays on or around him.



As for vapour cleaners I'm not sure what you mean?
My friend who was a canary breeder used a vapor cleaner that can be use as a household cleaner like kitchen stoves and ovens and he used it to clean the cages without the birds obviously and it was a hot stream of water vapor. It costs around 50 euros and i think it is a very good cleaner and kills bacteria. There are a lot of it also in amazon.

Again thank you for the info it made me calm down a bit. I'll continue cleaning the cage as many times as i can and tomorrow ill transfer them for the moment and clean it thoroughly with vinegar solution

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Old 06-20-2020, 03:53 PM
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Ah do you mean a steam cleaner? I have a steam cleaner I use on my cages for a good deep clean. Make sure the birds are nowhere near the cage when you do it though as it gets hot.
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Ah do you mean a steam cleaner? I have a steam cleaner I use on my cages for a good deep clean. Make sure the birds are nowhere near the cage when you do it though as it gets hot.
Yes i was thinking of buying it since steam can kill bacterias too and to have a general cage cleaning.

I think it is worsening, i saw him gasping for air now like yawning or repositioning his crop. It's late night now and i think the mites are more active than ever. I don't see in cage bars but my diy trap with a thin layer of cooking oil in white plastic managed to get some.

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Yes i was thinking of buying it since steam can kill bacterias too and to have a general cage cleaning.

I think it is worsening, i saw him gasping for air now like yawning or repositioning his crop. It's late night now and i think the mites are more active than ever. I don't see in cage bars but my diy trap with a thin layer of cooking oil in white plastic managed to get some.

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Do you have another cage you could put him in temporarily whilst you treat the first cage and everything in it?
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Do you have another cage you could put him in temporarily whilst you treat the first cage and everything in it?
I have 2 cages. And it's a hospital/transport cage that can fit only 1 bird at a time. I have spare time now and ill deconstruct my flight cage, i have montana madeira I. It's pretty heavy and spacious for 2 of them.

The yawning was temporary i think it was only last night. This morning he is active.

As for the diy trap I saw plenty sticking in the cooking oil some tiny ones managed to escape as the layer is thin, a bit tasking but ill continue repeating this until the diomateceous earth will arrive. More safer than putting tapes under that can stick to my kid's tail feather

I managed to contact my local pet store what is in the droplet and they said it's fipronil methoprene. Searched it and it is a generic anti parasitic

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I got the diatom earth. Used the process of putting under the paper. He still bit unwell and breathes fast with only his nose and sometimes with beak opened. It is also almost a week that i put the spot on for mites and still waiting for him.

He is active, he is excited to eat his seeds too, I'm hearing him chirping more unlike last week and he even grinds his beak after eating. I changed all including mineral blocks

He periodically sneeze, is he flushing out those damned mites?

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I'm sorry to hear that you're dealing with mites too. It's hard when there isn't an avian vet in your area. Hope Jack is doing better now!
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