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Old 06-17-2020, 06:17 PM
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Hello guys i need help to my little one. It is been a long time i haven't posted here but i noticed that my male budgie jack seem having trouble breathing (again) and last night i saw small mites crawling below the cage. It never happened before and i don't know where they came from. I immediately bought a dropper and applied to all 4 including to my 2 canaries. I also purchased a spray that can be applied directly to them but tonight i saw some again. I ordered an oral solution too and will come in a few days to mix in water and it is like s76 solution for mites. Any remedies or natural solution to repel mites? I'm looking at the internet now and im seeing that mites hate menthol and vicks menthol is a natural repellant but can i use it to put under the cage?

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Not a good idea to be mixing a lot of different remedies. You stated that you bought a dropper and applied something to your birds, what did you apply to them? If your birds have air sac mites that can interfere with the breathing. Do you have an avian vet?
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Please do NOT mix the different types of treatments. If you used Ivermectin then you should not need anything else. Spray should never be used on budgies and I would not recommend using an oral solution at this time.

As Cody asked, -- what specifically did you use on your birds?

You'll need to do a deep cleaning of the cages, perches, toys, etc. and any areas where the birds go.

You can use 100% pure eucalyptus oil to help with breathing issues by putting one or two drops of the oil in a warm air humidifier in the birds' room.

Have you had Jack checked by your Avian Vet?
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Unfortunately i live here in south italy and i checked all that are nearby and they only occupy mainly on dogs and cats. The travel to one is about 6 or 7 hours. And with government restriction (still) buses aren't going on trips. About the droplet i used is for anti mites that i bought in my local pet shop and it suggested too that i only drop 1 every month. I diluted the remaining solution to a half glass and cleaned the cage and perches. No oral. The spray was only there sitting. I haven't used it. Im seeing a lot of common swift birds here recently and i think that was the cause that they bought mites as they are nesting from building to building and some chicks are falling too from the nests

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As has been said dont use the spray and don't mix the treatments.

Can you tell us what the ingredients are on the spot on treatment you used?

You can get some diatom powder (diatomaceous earth powder) and use that in the cages under the paper. Just be careful that it doesn't get thrown about as it can irritate your respiratory system. I tend to put it down on the bottom of the cage and place and the paper over it whilst the birds are not there so they don't flap and get it everywhere. You can also put this on the floor underneath the cage. It will help kill any mites.
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As has been said dont use the spray and don't mix the treatments.

Can you tell us what the ingredients are on the spot on treatment you used?

You can get some diatom powder (diatomaceous earth powder) and use that in the cages under the paper. Just be careful that it doesn't get thrown about as it can irritate your respiratory system. I tend to put it down on the bottom of the cage and place and the paper over it whilst the birds are not there so they don't flap and get it everywhere. You can also put this on the floor underneath the cage. It will help kill any mites.
I don't have a clear picture of it only the instructions i took the picture because i was also asking my friend breeder how to dilute it.

It says that to use only one drop and use it again after 30 days. Then to clean i must dilute the it with water. I already done it and im just standing by and cleaning the cage at least 2 times a day

About earth powder i find it difficult of what it is as i struggle to translate the words I've been typing and reading. Is it a form of flour? Is there anything else aside of it that can put below the cage?

I cleaned the toys and some cloth perch and i used apple cider vinegar to clean even the cage. Made some to the drinks too and after i go out to work ill try to clean it again because the mites will get active at night

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I'm not sure what it would be called where you are based but it's this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomaceous_earth

It's not flour but it is usually a white fine powder. It basically sticks to the mites and pierces them so they dry out and die.

You can normally buy it from Amazon or eBay etc as I'm sure there are places that ship international though it may be available in your country.
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I'm not sure what it would be called where you are based but it's this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomaceous_earth

It's not flour but it is usually a white fine powder. It basically sticks to the mites and pierces them so they dry out and die.

You can normally buy it from Amazon or eBay etc as I'm sure there are places that ship international though it may be available in your country.
I saw some on amazon i think this is it. Do i just put it in the bottom of the cage just like you suggest and put a paper on top? And about the droplet i talked to my friend canary breeder and he says it will be about 7 to 10 days that he will be like that.but as the thing goes of there are still mites he will still be unwell. Regardless ill order it now so that it will arrive faster

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I saw some on amazon i think this is it. Do i just put it in the bottom of the cage just like you suggest and put a paper on top? And about the droplet i talked to my friend canary breeder and he says it will be about 7 to 10 days that he will be like that.but as the thing goes of there are still mites he will still be unwell. Regardless ill order it now so that it will arrive faster

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Yes that's the stuff.
I always remove the tray get it cleaned. Then sprinkle a fine layer of it on the try and put the paper on top. Do it away from the birds or it will all end up in the air if they flap around and you'll be covered in it. It won't hurt your skin though, just a nightmare to try and wipe off your clothes lol.

If you have wooden perches or perches with splits in then I would sprinkle some on those aswell as mites like to hide in cracks or small gaps.
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Yes that's the stuff.

I always remove the tray get it cleaned. Then sprinkle a fine layer of it on the try and put the paper on top. Do it away from the birds or it will all end up in the air if they flap around and you'll be covered in it. It won't hurt your skin though, just a nightmare to try and wipe off your clothes lol.



If you have wooden perches or perches with splits in then I would sprinkle some on those aswell as mites like to hide in cracks or small gaps.
Thank you. I ordered it the moment i saw the name that you mentioned and ill take note to that when applying the stuff, i have at least 3 split perches and 2 wooden swings from trixie. I put away the swings at the moment because there are ropes attached with it and to my surprise by pure curiosity i put it in the microwave for 30 seconds and i saw some mites too that's why i put it away at the moment. I was considering trying a method of trapping this critters with small tapes with sticky stuff under the cage out of reach of my budgies or applying a thin layer of cooking oil in a plastic so that when they run below the cage they will get trapped, let's see what is best before the diomatecus earth will arrive in tuesday. I returned in the mean time with seed diet because i noticed him that he also lost a bit of appetite, i even recently converted them to zupreem pellets and i was very happy and now ill have to start all over again once he starts getting well

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