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Hi, I made this account because I'm in need of some help asap

I have a pair of budgies with 2 chicks (3 days old and 1 day old) and 2 more on the way. The father has since this morning developed yellow discharge around his eyes, however his eye itself looks bright and clear. He also has baldness around the eye. I have bathed it with warm salt water as found on a different thread, and have taken the decision to quarantine him for now as he was quivering a little so I got worried it may be psittacosis and I didn't want it to spread to the mother and babies and my other birds.. Is this the right thing to do? He seems fine in him self otherwise, he is eating, drinking and pooping fine, he does seem to be sleeping a little more than usual but other than that seems fine.

What should I do? Should I put him back with the mother and babies and just treat it as an eye infection and continue bathing (he has only been separated a few hours)? Or should I keep him separate and get him to the vet for antibiotics? I'll try to attach photos but I'm not sure how [br][br]Any help would be great please let me know asap, I'm so worried what to do

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I am not able to tell for sure from the pictures -- is he molting pretty heavily right now?
It appears in the second picture that there are a lot of pin feathers on his face and head -- is that correct?

If so, then he may simply be going through a really bad molt.

https://talkbudgies.com/general-budgi...e-molting.html

Molting can take a lot of energy and is rather stressful for the budgie making it more tired than usual.

Are you giving him plenty of protein to help keep his strength up?
Quinoa, Egg and legumes are good sources of protein for budgies.

The following link has a great recipe for egg food if you are interested:
Egg Food- Our Aviary Recipe Step By Step - Cute Little Birdies Aviary

If he's molting heavily then I would go ahead and put him back with the hen and chicks. If not, then I suggest you keep him separated and take him to the Avian Vet.
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Hi,
Thank you for the advice, now that his face has dried and his feathers have fluffed up he looks back to normal again.. There are quite a few pin feathers around his eye kids and some above his cere, and I have noticed he has molted a few wing feathers.

I have had him in a separate cage for a few hours now so I could keep a close eye on him and his poo looks normal and he is eating a lot.

I have been feeding them fresh fruit and veggies daily, and boiled egg mixed with pellets every other day, along with mixed seed and pellets available at all times, they also have a cuttle bone and mineral block available at all times.

I have just put him back with his hen, and babies, he immediately fed her and then say in the nest box for a good 5 mins . He has now come out and is singing away.

I'm going to continue bathing his eyes twice a day to try and ease the pain of the pin feathers and help keep his eyes clean of tears.

Hopefully he will be ok

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You're welcome.

I'm going to move your thread over to "Follow-up".
Please give us an update on your little fellow's condition in a day or so.
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After a couple of hours he had discharge around his eyes again I've just bathed them again and I'm going to see how he is in the morning. I'm pretty convinced it's an eye infection or irritation from the pin feathers rather than a disease.. Does anyone have any recommendations for eye drops or something that I could try and find? It's Sunday tomorrow so most vets are closed, and the only avian vet I know in this area is definitely closed :/ I tried phoning today but they were only open in the morning so I missed them anything to help tie the little man over until Monday would be really helpful..
I'm worried if it's an infection that it might spread to the babies?
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Hi there! If it's an infection, he's been exposed to the babies already, so removing him might not be the best choice (but I'm hoping that an experienced breeder will chime in on this!). You can also bathe his eye with sterile eye drops from your pharmacy or chamomile tea (steep the tea and then leave it to cool with a plate over the top of the glass). Dip some towel in it or a Q-tip and then bathe the eye gently. Chamomile can help with infections and inflammation.

I would say watch him and the babies until you can get him to a vet on Monday. If he starts acting sick or shows any warning symptoms, you'll have to be more proactive, but for now, repeated soft bathings and observation are a good idea until the vet opens.

Don't forget to mention to your vet that he has a clutch that he's fathering so that he or she can recommend treatment for all if necessary.

The baldness around his eye is probably due to his molting as budgies tend to lose feathers around their eyes and cere when going through a bad molt. I'd be more concerned about the discharge.

Hoping for a speedy recovery and strong chicks!
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Thank you so much for the help! I will try to gets some drops from the pharmacy tomorrow and I will give the chamomile tea a go. Although there is discharge on the feathers around his eyes, his eyes themselves look bright and clear and with no irritation at all.. That's what makes me thing the pin feathers may just be causing irritation..

I'm going to keep a close eye on him and see how he is tomorrow after trying what you suggested and I'll keep you posted.. Fingers crossed the whole little family will be ok like you say, if it is contagious the rest of the family likely already have it.. the mum has no signs of eye irritation at all, (and the babies havnt opened their eyes yet) so hopefully it isn't something contagious ?

Thank you again! Although I've only just joined, it's really nice to be part of a community that will give some advice when needed ??
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Bethany has offered you excellent advice.

At this point, taking him in to your Avian Vet on Monday is definitely the best course of action.

Good luck and please let us know how he's doing.
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G'day Yekralam, and welcome - although I am sorry to hear your budgie is sick!

Eye infections are actually uncommon in budgies. An eye discharge is more indicative of a respiratory infection. You do need to be INCREDIBLY CAREFUL about using eye medication that has not been specifically prescribed for birds. A man I know managed to inadvertently kill 4 rare budgies of his because he thought his birds had eye infection and used an ointment that had been prescribed for a dog (had steroids in it, which give small birds heart attacks).

Of course, you would still gently clean away the discharge with either saline or the chamomile tea, but the budgie needs a vet, for medication, which you are doing.

In the meantime, I would steam your boy - since you have him separated, take him into the bathroom whilst you are having a hot shower and let him breathe the steam from the shower

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Good news, this morning I woke up expecting to find him with mucky feathers around his eyes again, but to my surprise his eyes are looking pretty perfect! He has a little muck on one eye but no where near as badly as before. I'm keeping an eye on him and I'll continue bathing his eyes, but I'm so pleased with his improvement.

It is now clear that there are lots of pin feathers around his eye lids - I think them poking through the skin was causing his eyes to water. You can also see some pins above his cere. There was no discharge from his actual eye itself, it just seemed the feathers around his eye were soaking up the years and looking mucky.

I'll attach a picture of him that I just took before bathing his eyes with saline again. You can see that one side looks completely better, and the other is only a little mucky (even after the whole night of sleeping, nowhere near as bad as yesterday). It probably doesn't help that he is an exhibition budgie so his feathers pretty much hang over his eyes.. Lol

He is currently back with his wife and kids (he is so happy and doesn't seem I'll at all) and everyone is doing really well. He kept straight in the box, fed everyone and say in there for a good 5 minutes before reappearing

Thank you for all the help and advice to get my boy Hercules on the road to recovery again

Sophie

And don't worry, I removed that lovely poop that has been deposited in the nest box

And this is primrose , the mum
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