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I have become quite concerned over my budgie who has been sick for a week now and getting worse. He sneezes, wheezes and has a clogged nostril. I managed to visit bird breeders, one who provided a conoction of antibiotic made by him, and another who provided me with some type of strong powder that I was instructed to dilute in specific amount in the bird's water. The two however do not seem to be of any help, and I came home to find the budgie with nostril clogged so bad that it didn't look like he had one at all. I have been cleaning it with a damp q-tip, and theres a yellowish gooey substance on the feathers above the ceres as well as in the nostrils. I clean it well enough that nothing is in there , but within a few minutes this substance starts to develop again. I have had this bird for less than a month along with another bird(who started sneezing as well just now and who's left nostril look s a little wet) and I believe that they are both under 6 month of age. I have tried placing steaming tea with ginger and other herbs as a natural inhalant to open up his airways but with no results really. I am very worried and it's breaking my heart to see the bird like this especially now that the other one is sick too :'( I will try anything that anybody knows because I do not want to lose these birds.

I am going to go yet again tomorrow and try to find someone who could help me. There are no avian vets where I live, I have looked. Anyone with any advice please comment, I'm desperate.

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Until you can get to the vet, take a kettle or a crock-pot with boiling water and set it outside their cage with a drop or two of pure eucalyptus oil in it. Tent a sheet over the cage so the warm moist steam is concentrated in and around the cage. This should help them breathe more easily until you get to the vet. You can also take their cage into the bathroom and run hot water through the shower to get the room warm and steamy.

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Since budgies don't drink much water, medicine placed in water won't help much. You need to administer liquid antibiotics by dropper.
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Your budgies are obviously very ill and need to be examined as soon as possible by a avian vet the poor little one with the bad symptoms especially needs urgent attention, please do the steam, they will both need antibiotics and lots of attention. feed them the best quality foods and greens, make sure the cage is cleaned and fresh water daily. These symptoms can not get better without the medical assistance.
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Your birds need advanced avian vet care. They can clear ear and sinus with with micro tube wash, nebulizer treatment to get deep in respiratory tract. drops of gentamycin in ear and or nose to clear infection plus oral antibiotic by beak. Antibiotic in water is good support treatment with oral by beak and other steps listed above . This is advanced medicine and not in the skill set of members of TB. We know it is possible but we are not trained vets. The treatment suggested by FaeryBee can give temporary relief as first aid but the birds need meds and procedures only available through avian vet or regular vet with avian experience. The steam must be done constantly to be of any real help. Once in a while will provide no real relief. Please check consult possibilities
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Thank you everyone for your concern and advice! I am glad to announce that my budgie has pulled through this infection. It turns out that an outcome of the treatment he was put on my the pet breeders was supposed to bring out all the infection thus the very clogged nostril. He no longer sounds raspy nor does he sneeze or wheeze. His nostrils have mostly cleared up, the right nostril is still a little clogged but the gooey yellow colour is now a clear colour and is not that thick nor as frequent. I only had to clean it out once today opposed to about every hour in the previous days. He is going through his first molt at the moment since the bars above his cere are disappearing, and is also shedding the shell like covering that encloses new feathers(so i guess is about 6months old now). He has lost a considerable amount of weight though because of the infection he had, so I went and got him cuttlebone and eggfood. Are there any other suggestions to fatten him up quicker because his chest bone is somewhat sharp and prominent? I could not find millet spray, but his diet does have red and white millet seeds along with flaxseed and oats.

The younger budgie is doing just fine, and it turns out I was just really nervous and he did not seem to catch any infection or sickness. He is pretty small in size though, but his chest bone does not protrude nor feel sharp. I do have a concern about him though, he hasn't flew yet, I put him outside the cage, he attempts to fly but cannot get higher than a meter and does not last before he crashes It just seems like his wings aren't strong enough yet, because he doesn't wheeze or anything like that, so no respiratory complications. He hasn't gone through his first molt, and if i were to pick him up he'd practically disappear in my palm He has all his feathers and his tail feathers are pretty long. His wings have not been clipped, but maybe cause he is smaller in size and not as old?
I am trying to post some picture hopefully it works! The budgie to the right is the one who was sick, and the one to the left is the younger one, In the picture it looks like he doesn't have his bars, but he does they're just really light in colour.
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Were your pictures taken with flash -- the whiteish colored one looks like a female to me in the picture you posted.

With regard to the younger one not being able to fly well yet, it could be simply that s/he hasn't yet developed the muscle strength needed to do so. As s/he keeps practicing the ability should improve.

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No the pictures weren't taken with flash I'm afraid of harming their eyes hahaa Yeah I haven't been able to find out its gender yet the beak is much lighter than the other budgie who is obviously a male and more of a pink than purple and somewhat white. I guess in a month or so it will be more obvious perhaps changing colour to either brown or blue? I was trying to sign up with photobucket but it kept giving me an error, but I will try again and take some better pictures for you to see
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I still can't access photobucket, keeps giving me an error, but here are some close-ups, this time with flash.
The vibrant blue bird is the one who's sick, he even looks tired, but as you can see its almost all cleared up, it got to a point so bad his nostril vanished, and it really scared me He's been drinking lots of water, so that's a good thing to restore all the fluid he's been losing.

Both birds in my opinion are pretty small in size, but I think one is definitely older than the other by a month or more.
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Budgies CAN rally for a little while, then go down hill again after an initial response to an antibiotic that may not be *quite* right. I do hope this is not thee case with your bird!

There can even be a foreign body inside his nare - and without a vet to help, it will flare up again.

Whereabouts do you live? We may be able to help to locate a vet who can treat birds.
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