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This keeps the E.R. for only the most current emergencies. Thread Description:Emergency, Please Help!
I don't want to make this sound worse than it is, but to be completely honest I don't know the severity of what is actually happening.
I don't have time for details (this is an emergency of sorts) but some may recall that Prince has a self-mutilation problem. He has to wear a cone every couple of months to prevent him from biting into his skin under his wing and bleeding to death. Recently I did not put the cone on when I probably should've, and now prince has injured himself.
Just half an hour ago, I discovered blood on his wings. Of course I captured him as quickly as possible and lifted up his left wing (he picks at this side more) and found a mess of blood, skin, and feathers. In my opinion, the bleeding was bad. I got a family member to help apply flour to the wound. I did not clean the site first, so I'm praying that it doesn't matter that I didn't. After applying the flour, I prepared his cone and also put that on so that he couldn't pick at the wound. The bleeding appears to have stopped... If it hadn't have I don't believe he would still be alive.
What do I do next? It is the long weekend, so the avian vet is not open. PLEASE: I need advice on what to do in the immediate future (now). Should I wait until the morning to clean the woundy, or should I do it now? And what do I do after that?
I'd like to add that Prince is handling this situation well. He is calm; currently sitting on my shoulder while intently picking at his cone. Right after I discovered the bleeding, he was even playing with his favorite toy... which I thought was a little strange since it was a substantial amount of blood (we ended up at the vet with a similar occurrence). He is so forgiving, especially after I've had to capture him by hand so many times tonight and in the past. Meanwhile, I'm a mess! I try so hard not to freak out in these events, but it's very difficult when my sweetie's life is on the line
I'm sorry to hear of this but it sounds like you have things under control although I've never experienced it myself. I would say it's okay to leave the wound alone until you can reach the avian vet purely because you don't want to upset it more and risk starting the bleed again.
Can you recall what the vets advice was for such an occurrence?
I hope you're okay I'm sure you got a terrible fright.
What a scary situation! I would be a nervous wreck, even though it's important to stay calm during these situations (easier said than done )
I would be tempted to clean the wound with a bit of antiseptic just to avoid infection until you can get to the vet, but I don't know personally which antiseptics are bird safe. I know that some can have toxic side effects with birds. If all else fails, you can use some saline water until the vet.
Best of luck to you and Prince!
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I'd recommend you check the wound site today now that the situation is no longer an "emergency" to determine the extent of the injury.
If the wound needs to be cleaned out to remove feathers stuck in the open area then I would use only sterile saline solution to rinse carefully rinse it as you don't want to risk having it start bleeding again.
I personally would not apply an antiseptic to it simply because the vet will need to determine if it is an "oozing" wound. Those wounds are generally not treated with any type of ointment as it can make them worse -- instead the medication used has a drying agent in it.
Good luck and please be sure to give us an update on little Prince's condition.
Thanks for your response. I made a sterile saline solution as you suggested, and attempted to flush out the wound a bit. It's a pretty severe wound, and there is lots of dried blood. I only rinsed it a couple of times due to Prince's squirming and protesting... plus the water draining from the wound was stained red and I didn't want to risk re-opening the wound. I could not tell if the reddish water was from fresh blood, but the wound didn't appear to be bleeding. It could've just been caused from the large amount of dried blood that there was. Should I apply a bit more flour just in case?
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Wait a while to see if there is any bright red fresh blood. If not try to rinse again with sterile saline. Dry blood will dilute and flow red but not be fresh.
Be sure the bird does not pick at the wound. If there are feathers in the wound. Sterilize blunt tip tweezers in alcohol and have a second person hold the bird while you try to pick the feathers out. Is the area swollen, weaping, or red? If pulling the feathers causes fresh bleeding, stop and just rinse once or twice a day to keep the area clean if seed etc find a way into the wound.
Call your avian vet first thing Monday AM, ASAP, for an emergency appointment. check birds body temp. It may show too hot like a fever or too cold chills which means to provide extra heat and soak millet spray in electrolyte to provide nutrition and the cool liquid could help to lower a fever if the bird has one. Nutrition provides the energy needed to heal and keep its little motor going. Praying that the wound did not get further infected.
Blessings, Jo Ann
Jo Ann, thanks for all of your excellent advice. Yes, the affected area is quite irritated (red and featherless). But since he already pulled nearly all of the feathers out of the same area before this incident, I don't believe I need to worry about removing any feathers myself. Now that he has his cone on, I can rest assured that he can't aggravate the wound further. I will be sure to flush the area with a saline rinse twice a day, and I will absolutely contact the vet on Monday. Your suggestions have been incredibly helpful!
When you mentioned soaking some millet in electrolytes, did you mean a solution such as gatorade?
Once again, thank you for the expert advice. Prince looks a little rough with his stained wings, but I'm confident he will make a full recovery.