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Old 07-06-2015, 09:36 PM
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Hi,

I've posted in my previous message about Basil being sick and taking her to the vet. This evening, we played chase for 15min and I gave up. I let her settle in her cage and had to reach in to grab her. Which I hate doing. It breaks my heart. So, I had her in my hands and tried to hold her correctly in the little towel and she got lose. Now she's on to me. So, again, I'm letting her settle in her cage and will try again. I can't catch her while she's on my finger, by clamp down on her feet and catch her with my other hand. She is already not trusting that finger now.

I'm not sure if it's because she's older and smarter, lol, but I only have so much energy to chase her around. I had to take a break. I'm already an hour late on her meds. So, I'll have to do what I've done in the past...take her from inside her cage, unless someone has a better idea?

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Old 07-06-2015, 09:39 PM
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I posted this on another thread a few weeks back...hope it helps. Feel better Basil!

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Yes.... this can be really difficult. The thing I have found most helpful is to wedge the syringe in the back corner of the mouth and direct the flow over the tongue and down the throat. Have you budgie tilted at the ideal angle to direct the flow if meds to where the need to be. Take your time getting the syringe in the perfect position to ensure theat your bird actually gets the full dose of the meds. Push the syringe fast and steady, but not forceful. I don't think sneezing is absolutely normal, that may be more of a factor of him clearing the secretions from his respiratory infection than from you giving the meds. Does he sneeze up stuff that looks like the medication? You should start to see improvement in 2-3 days, if you don't than I would call the vet for possibly another medication or to take you bird in for an injection. Good luck.

I posted this on another thread a few days ago, you may find it helpful. There is a video of us giving meds to our budgie:

"Sorry to hear little Bud is not well. We had to give our Penry a course of medication recently and it took us a while to get the hand of it. The first thing I will say is make sure you have plenty of time. The first couple days I was running late for work, and us being rushed made the whole situation more stressful on Penry than it needed to be. Second thing is be calm and patient. This will help Bud feel the same way.

We took Penry onto the bathroom, closed the door, turned the light off, and then caught him with a tea towel. You can use your hands but I preferred the towel because that tricked Penry into thinking it wasn't really us that was catching him, and we also used the towel to keep his eyes and feet covered to keep him calm. Then lodge the syringe in the corner of his mouth over the tongue and inject the meds quickly. Offer millet immediately so he doesnt cough the meds back up.

Here's a video of use giving Penry his meds so you can see how it goes.
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Hope this helps.... let me know if you have more questions. This is actually a pretty difficult thing to do and no matter how good you are your bird will NOT like it. Hang in there and hope Bud gets better soon!!"
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I found it easier to give medication when it was nearly dark in the room, this is the easiest time to catch them as well. Either early morning or before bed time . Have everything prepared and ready sitting by you. I would not try to catch Basil whilst she is out free of her cage as it simply is too easy for her to escape from you. With her being sick having her flying round or running around is not the best either. Naughty girl that she is LOL.
SO I would do it just before she is ready for bed when it is almost dark. You can talk to her as you normally do and gently pick her up from her perch with a gloved hand, try to hold her loosely around the chest area but have her feet sitting on your palm.
Good luck try to be calm and not rushed, it isn't easy and you are doing the best you can hugs to you.
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The above advice and demo are great advice. You are being a good responsible parent. Some times the kids need to do what they do not want to do because it is needful for their health and well being. Basil will forget to be mad in the long term. Our Apollo has to have maintenance clips or the food wiped off the face etc. He is very indignant about the whole thing but he is still my cuddle budgie and he knows this. So now he makes a face of armed tolerance, but abide with what must be done. This is your job as a responsible budgie mom. Relax and give your self a well done when you next give Basil her meds. It is up to you to present the self confidence she will recognize as the way it is done. You can do this and be proud of your self.
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How is Basil doing , hope the medication is starting to do it's job and she is feeling better.?
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Hi, thanks for the tips and encouragement. It's so much appreciated. We're almost done, one more dose of meds tonight. I have been feeling worse myself so I really do apologize for not being on here before now. It's really tough for me. Basil seems to be doing better but still not eating a whole lot. She never was a big eater though.. maybe she's eating what she needs and I worry about it, lol.

She seems more her self, she's starting to follow me into other rooms, sleeping in her usual spot and even talking a little again. She is a little mis-trustful of me now but it's getting better. She still loves her momma!

I'm worried about her sticking her wings out and almost shaking them. I forgot to bring the sd card with me. I'll post a pic of her later this afternoon. (I don't have internet at home)

I'm still worried about a few things, that I posted in the previous post about the visit to the vet. Maybe she'll be ok. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
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Hi,

There's one more thing about her eating and I noticed again as I sat down after coming back to my apt. (I use a neighbours wifi). She'll eat, but a little at a time. Then a few minutes later go for a little bit more.

I wonder if it's really time to switch up her diet and introduce other foods besides her 2 favourite fruits? I think someone mentioned making corn bread and hiding veggies in it. So cornbread is safe for them to eat? I wish I had wifi had home to read up on all the 'sticky's'. Eventually I'll get to it.

Here's the pic of what Basil seems to do (I think) when she's not feeling well. She did it at the vet when she was stressed out from us trying to catch her in the exam room. She certainly had the energy to fly around and elude capture to give her 1st dose of meds! I asked the vet about it and she had 'no answer'. She's not my favourite vet.

Here the pic shows how she holds her feathers out, sometimes they'll be still or sometimes slightly shaking. Is this something to be concerned about?

ps- I went to the vet in my province because I know about a fund that can pay for ER vet visits, but you have to have a 'relationship' with the vet. I took a brochure home and it's called 'The Farley Fund' I qualify because I'm on disability. The vet has to be the one who makes the decision and makes the application. At least it's something in case I need to take her in again soon. I really hope I don't though.

I wonder if I can ask the vet, if she gets sick again, to just go and pick up the medication and explain my financial situation? Oh my, sorry for all the questions!

Thanks again for those who reply. Helps me feel less alone with taking care of Basil. I used to have the breeder but she no longer lives here. Take care!
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Hi Tasha and Basil, Budgies usually hold their wings out like this when they are hot or stressed. Does she pant when doing it? Is it usually after exertion from flying or running around trying to get away from you LOL.

From that picture she is also in condition at present so she will be hormonal too. She doesn't look skinny do you know how much she weighs? Now it is me asking all the questions !
If she was my budgie I would get her some probiotics these help get the digestive system back on track and as she has been on medication this important as well. Keep up the great work she will be back to herself soon I hope .
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