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Old 07-22-2015, 08:53 PM
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Default Help? Budgie stool containing blood?

Has anyone had a similar problem? If so what was wrong? Was your budgie cured? Any advise? Any information would be very helpful.


Background info - On Sunday the 12th I came home from work to find my budgie had been pooing blood (I think there should be an attached photo)
Anyway I rushed him straight to the only open vet and they prescribed antibiotics for him and said because he was acting normal he should be fine. They said to go back on the Tuesday if he was still pooing blood fir further investigation. Anyway I gave him his antibiotics and within two hours his poo was normal again. I continued him on his antibiotics and checked his poo regularly - it's been fine. He came off his antibiotics on the Sunday after having finished the recommended week of antibiotics. Today (23rd) I came home to find he was pooing blood again. Not so much this time and when I checked his poo properly the blood is around the outside - not in the poo as it was. I've given him a dose of his antibiotics (what I had leftover - in hope this might work again).

I'm booking him in at the vets in the morning. But all they do in my town is look it up in their books because they don't see budgies at all. There is no avarian vet for a good two hours drive and I won't be able to get him to one until Friday at the earliest - though I can get him to a local vet tomorrow.

Update - this is his last poo sample
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I'm sorry your first visit here is due to a serious problem.
Fresh blood in a budgie's dropping can be indicative of enteritis or septicaemia or poisoning.

My first thought is that your budgie may have an extreme case of heavy metal poisoning.
How old is your budgie?
Are there any bare metal or rusty spots on his cage?
Does he obsessively chew or lick metal on the cage bars or any of his toys?

Do you have an emergency exotic veterinarian in your area you can visit?
Exotic vets generally have more experience with birds than "regular" vets but not as much as certified Avian vets.

Budgies don't have a great deal of blood to begin with and can quickly become anemic or die from exsanguination if the bleeding isn't stopped.
If you have no emergency exotic vets nearby, I would suggest you contact one of the on-line avian vets to ask for professional advice.

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Thank you so much for replying.

His favourite toy is a metal bell - he sometimes puked on it but it's washed every few days. There is no rust on it ( I replace it every 6 months or so) I'll remove it from his cage just in case.

My budgie is 4 years old now. I've had him 4 years today and he has been with me since he was 7 weeks old.

The only exotic vet in the area I don't trust - I keep rabbits too and we have strong reason to believe they od'd him on anaesthetic.

Thank you for your advise though you've given me an idea. Could I get in touch with a budgie expert - or a vet in the country that deals with budgies more often and have them talk to my vet and recommend treatment? Do you think they would?

He has just done another dropping and it has a lot less blood in it again. - this is what happened when he first went on the antibiotics. Could it be an infection? He's not in contact with any other animals at the moment so he can't have picked anything up from them? Could it be that the treatment wasn't long enough?

Again thank you so much for replying. I can't tell you how much it means to me that you responded.
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Thank you so much for replying.

The only exotic vet in the area I don't trust - I keep rabbits too and we have strong reason to believe they od'd him on anaesthetic.

Thank you for your advise though you've given me an idea. Could I get in touch with a budgie expert - or a vet in the country that deals with budgies more often and have them talk to my vet and recommend treatment? Do you think they would?

He has just done another dropping and it has a lot less blood in it again. - this is what happened when he first went on the antibiotics. Could it be an infection? He's not in contact with any other animals at the moment so he can't have picked anything up from them? Could it be that the treatment wasn't long enough?

Again thank you so much for replying. I can't tell you how much it means to me that you responded.
You're welcome -- I wish I could do more for you but I'm not trained as an Avian Vet.

Yes, getting in touch with an Avian Vet and having him/her consult with your regular vet and offer advice for treatment is an EXCELLENT idea!.

If you are able to reach Dr. Ross Perry (who's numbers are listed under On-Line Avian Vets), he is very well-known and I believe he frequently consults with other vets with regard to treatment protocols.
If you have another Avian Vet in mind, by all means contact him/her instead of or in addition to Dr. Perry.

Yes, the blood in the stools may be an indicator of an infection.
An individual trained in Avian Medicine will know more about the most likely cause of his condition than I.

I'm sending lots of healing energy and positive thoughts for your little guy.
Please do keep us updated on his condition.
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How frightening for you, I can not add any information to what you have been given from Deb, I sincerely hope you manage to get to an avian vet soon and find out what is causing your sweet budgie's symptoms.
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Phoenix is doing a lot better today. He has stopped passing blood completely and his stools have returned to normal. He is playing and enjoying himself at the moment. I found an avian vet that's only a 30 minute drive away too so he's registered with them and has a check up appointment on Thursday.

I wanted to say thank you guys for helping xxxxxx
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Is there any way you can get Phoenix in to see the Avian Vet before Thursday?

Even though he's doing better now, I think it's very important he be seen by an Avian Vet as soon as possible.
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I wish I could. I'm at work everyday this vet has appointments, Thursday is the first day I could get him in.

(He's very popular as he's specialised in bird and reptiles)

I was told by them that I should use the local charity vet in an emergency and they will contact phoenix's avian vet for advice. Apparently the reason he couldn't be seen any earlier is because they don't do emergency appointments.
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I understand.
I hope Phoenix's condition will remain stable and you will get positive news regarding his condition when you see the Avian Vet on Thursday.

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That is great news, please let us know how the trip to the avian vet goes...
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