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Old 07-25-2015, 10:49 PM
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Please help me!! I'm feeding 2 baby budgies right now because there was an incident and the hen flew away... I don't think she wanted to but she got a big shock and bolted (I was carrying the cage and the bottom fell of and it was outside, and so the mom budgie got very freaked out and flew away... I ran after her but her wings weren't clipped. The dad is still here but if I left the chicks to him they'd be dead) one baby is 3 and a half weeks old and the other 3 weeks. I am feeding them about every 3 hours with Kaytee Exact Formula (I use a syringe not spoon). Anyways, the older baby seems to have a vein showing on her/his crop when it's full (I can't see the vein when the crop is emptier), but it's at the shoulder area. It's hard to see and I only noticed it yesterday because the chick had an air bubble at her or his shoulder and I was massaging/burping it out. I can only see a single visible vein, but it's hard to tell because the chick is just about fully feathered. I read somewhere a while back that if there are veins visible in the crop, this might mean Septicemia (like when the veins and blood are invaded by bacteria that can really hurt the chick). Is a visible vein in a budgie's crop anything to worry about? (The younger chick seems fine and Misty (that's the chick with the vein) seems fine in the way she acts mostly)

I can post pictures if anyone wants them if I can get a good shot of the vein and after I figure out how to post pics on this forum

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I'm sorry to hear your hen flew away...
Regarding the vein you are seeing on the crop, veins can be visible when the chicks are young and not fully feathered yet, and yes air bubbles can also make the veins more visible.
Their skin is also see through when very young and as they get older, the skin will get thicker in consistency and will darken out a bit. If the chick is bright eyed and active for its age, is digesting the food well, I don't see a reason for you to worry.

As your chicks are approaching weaning age, besides the hand feedings, you can also begin by introducing new foods into their diet. You can place a dish with some egg food, this is highly nutritious for growing chicks and it's soft and easy for them to eat. Seeds easy for chicks to practice dehusking are flax seed, spray millet, Niger seed and canary seed. You can also place some soft leafy veggies for the chicks.
My chicks will usually start to get more interested in cracking seed, eating egg food and nibbling on a piece of veggie by the time they are 23 - 24 days old, but these are parent raised chicks, so your hand fed babies may take a while longer in trying the new foods.
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Sorry to hear about female

What I read about Septicemia /Sepsis that this infection causes blood clotting and reduce blood flow to limbs and internal organs hence life threatening

Vein becoming visible is not the symptom (in this case color will be normal)

Vein becoming visible due to blood clotting or blood clotting under the skin can be a symptom (in this case color will be purplish black)

See the picture in this link showing result of reduced blood flow to foot causing dead foot this reduced blood flow can also cause internal organs failure

https://www.birds-online.de/gesundhei...enerfuss01.jpg
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Thanks everyone. So I guess I'm not gonna worry too much right now, as this baby is as active as always, and thanks again for the replies.
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Ok, I have another problem. So as I said, I have 2 babies and the older one has a vein showing on its crop around the shoulders. But I just fed the babies and after I was done I noticed that the younger one had veins on its crop at the front I am worried all over again. Am I right to worry? on this little ones crop the vein is branching out, but it's not everywhere on the crop. Please help me! (again)
And how do I post a pic of its crop? I am using an iPad and every time I press the button that I think is for posting pictures it sends me to home screen!
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And I forgot to say, this chick has no air bubbles... 'aluz' said they make veins more visible (though the older baby didn't have an air bubble after I massaged it out, and the vein still stayed)
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I don't know anything about chicks, but have you tried getting the Photobucket app for your iPad to post the pictures? That's what I use. Hopefully you're just being an overprotective mom (as you should be!).
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The veins in the middle of the crop are also visible on chicks even without the air bubbles, especially when their crops are full.
I will try and see if I can find pictures of my own previous chicks (I currently don't have chicks) and hopefully will find one where the veins are visible.
I wish I could put your mind more at ease, all I can say for now if it makes any sense is, if the veins have a nice colour and look healthy, then you have nothing to worry about.
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