Possibly sick budgie, sinusitis? - Talk Budgies Forums


User Menu
Forum Home
Budgie Gallery
Budgie FAQ
Site Guidelines
How-To-Guide
Members List
Today's Posts
Log In
Register now!
Search



Advanced Search
Popular Forums
Announcements

Budgie Articles

Budgie Talk

Budgie Pictures

Budgie Videos

Budgie Behavior

Determining Gender

Your Budgie's Health

Taming and Bonding

Budgie Breeding

In Memory

Other Birds

Contests

Chit Chat

Site Information

Talk Network
Talk Budgies
Talk Cockatiels
Talk Parrotlets
Talk Parrots
Sponsored Ads

Go Back   Talk Budgies Forums > Budgie Talk > Your Budgie's Health > Emergency Room > Follow-up Center


Follow-up Center Threads made in the Emergency Room forum will be moved here by staff as a way to follow-up with members after their budgie emergency. This keeps the E.R. for only the most current emergencies.

Closed Thread
 
Short URL LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 08-04-2015, 08:49 AM
Egg
 
Profile:Aleksandra is offline
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Owner
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 10
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 10
Rep Power: 0
Aleksandra is on a distinguished road
Default Possibly sick budgie, sinusitis?

My pet budgie is about 4 years old. When I first got her she had mites which was handled in two weeks time thanks to the vet I took her to. Since then she has been fine, but about 2-3 days ago I noticed she has very tiny bald spots around the eye, mostly between her left eye and beak. The other eye seems to be unaffected. Other than that she seems pretty cheerful, eats, drinks, signs, plays with her toys.

However, today after having been very lively in the morning she went silent and took to the floor. Now she's just sitting there, doing nothing. The previous few weeks she exhibited a behaviour that I could only describe as nesting? She would put her plastic toy beneath her, collect shredded paper all around, and occasionally would 'feed' it and preen it.

I live in Macedonia and an avian vet is practically impossible to come by. The vet I took her to last time had experience with budgies and was great, but he's on vacation now and I cannot reach him. I'm taking her to another vet that I was told is also experienced with budgies later in the evening, but in the meantime what should I do? I'm pretty much going crazy with worry by this point, I can't wait till evening calmly, doing nothing.

I gave her lemon which she loved and some peppers which she slightly nibbled. I keep telling myself that I will handle this and she'll be fine, but the truth is I'm really, really scared.

Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old 08-04-2015, 08:57 AM
Therm's Avatar
Member of the Month January 2016

State:
 
Profile:Therm is offline
Gender:
Number of Budgies: 17
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Lover
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Lincs
Posts: 4,995
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 4382
Rep Power: 14
Therm has a reputation beyond reputeTherm has a reputation beyond reputeTherm has a reputation beyond reputeTherm has a reputation beyond reputeTherm has a reputation beyond reputeTherm has a reputation beyond reputeTherm has a reputation beyond reputeTherm has a reputation beyond reputeTherm has a reputation beyond reputeTherm has a reputation beyond reputeTherm has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I have no idea of anything you can do to make your anxiety go away while you're waiting but you have taken the steps of contacting a vet and getting her there as soon as possible and that's going to be the best thing you can do for her, I'm sure. Hang in there.
  #3  
Old 08-04-2015, 09:45 AM
Jo Ann's Avatar
Jo Ann (Jo Ann)
Member of the Year 2016//Exceptional Service Award August 2016//MOTM May 2013


State:
 
Profile:Jo Ann is offline
Gender:
Number of Budgies: 12+-
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Atlanta area, GA USA
Posts: 4,408
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 11967
Rep Power: 33
Jo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond repute
Smile Possibly

Do you have a birdy first aid kit? If not Now is the time to start one so you will be more prepared to help your budgie bemore comfortable.

First when budgies get sick their body will be cold because they do not feel well enough to eat to keep their generator going. If your budgie likes millet spray, soak it in electrolyte so if the bird is willing to eat even a little electrolyte in the tummy and encourage budgie to try to eat. Hold your budgie against your ear and listen for any crackling in the respiratory noises. If you hear crackling Set up a pot or crock pot filled with boiling water with a couple of drops of eucalyptus oil and tent the cage and pot with a towel to raise the humidity and warmth. If necessary give a drop of electrolyte directly in the beak. keep budgie warm, and quiet until you see the vet.Cover the cage if it is cold wrap a towel around transport cage. There are stickys here on TB to help you create Your birdy first aid kit while you wait for the appointment Please keep us informed.
Blessings, Jo Ann U
__________________

Thanks for the signature FaeryBee
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old 08-04-2015, 01:42 PM
Egg
 
Profile:Aleksandra is offline
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Owner
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 10
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 10
Rep Power: 0
Aleksandra is on a distinguished road
Default

My dad found a vet very close by so we went there. It turns out she has a repeat of the mites. The previous vet said to just treat her with an oil on her beak and cere. Because she was not treated properly now it's started again. The vet gave me some kind of solution to put between the feathers on her skin, a drop once a day and also a soluble vitamin in her drinking water. Said all should be fine in a week.

The vet said to be careful not to put more than a drop from the solution on her skin because it would be otherwise toxic. Well, me and my dad tried to be careful, but I put something like 2 drops because she was very restless. So, I want to know if there are serious consequences from an overdose? And do you have any ideas of how to make this more comfortable for my budgie and not that stressful. We could barely hold her steady.
  #5  
Old 08-04-2015, 05:13 PM
Jo Ann's Avatar
Jo Ann (Jo Ann)
Member of the Year 2016//Exceptional Service Award August 2016//MOTM May 2013


State:
 
Profile:Jo Ann is offline
Gender:
Number of Budgies: 12+-
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Atlanta area, GA USA
Posts: 4,408
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 11967
Rep Power: 33
Jo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond repute
Smile Possibly

The first vet used an older treatment, It works but must be repeated every few months. The Ivermectin can cause allergic response on skin. Watch the bird closely and call the new vet ASAP if budgie acts funny. In fact you would be wise to call this vet with an up date now and ask for instructions in case of a problem. It will likely be OK. You can apply Ivermectin every 6 months to a year. any oil will smother external mites. but the ivermectin lasts longer an covers other parasites as well. So both will work , but one is more effective long term. So mark your calendar in 6 and 12 months to apply the Ivermectin. Get your vet or a vet tech to demonstrate the 2 finger hold on a budgie. also you can wrap the budgie in a paper towel or cloth. This will reduce the struggling. Windy City Parrot has a new cloth restraint that is not as bulky as a whole cloth. Before you apply the ivermectin spend some time getting the bird quiet by gently rubbing the top of its head. When it calms down then you can hold while the other person applies the solution to the skin between the wings on the back of the neck. It is probably OK but check with your vet just to be sure. Blessings, Jo Ann
__________________

Thanks for the signature FaeryBee

Last edited by Jo Ann; 08-21-2015 at 01:35 PM.
  #6  
Old 08-04-2015, 10:13 PM
StarlingWings's Avatar
Super Moderator // MEMBER OF THE YEAR 2015


 
Profile:StarlingWings is offline
Gender:
Number of Budgies: 1
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Lover
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 17,551
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 12055
Rep Power: 38
StarlingWings has a reputation beyond reputeStarlingWings has a reputation beyond reputeStarlingWings has a reputation beyond reputeStarlingWings has a reputation beyond reputeStarlingWings has a reputation beyond reputeStarlingWings has a reputation beyond reputeStarlingWings has a reputation beyond reputeStarlingWings has a reputation beyond reputeStarlingWings has a reputation beyond reputeStarlingWings has a reputation beyond reputeStarlingWings has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Hello and welcome to the forums!

I'm sorry to hear your little one isn't feeling well, I really hope you can get her to a vet soon and that she is back to normal soon!
You've received excellent advice on how to care for her before then.

Please keep us updated and feel free to ask about anything else you're unsure of as we'd be happy to help.
__________________

~StarlingWings~
and Princess Mallorn!
Thank you to Deb for her wonderful Faery magic
  #7  
Old 08-05-2015, 04:30 PM
Egg
 
Profile:Aleksandra is offline
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Owner
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 10
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 10
Rep Power: 0
Aleksandra is on a distinguished road
Default

Hello again, my wonderfully helpful new friends.

I've been watching Chikita closely all day and she's been great. Chirping, jumping, with a healthy appetite, normal stool. Nothing out of the ordinary. Before I took her to the vet she was understandably itchy, but today the itching seems to have stopped almost completely. Also no new bald spots, it actually looks slightly better today.

I'll keep you updated and thank you once more for all the advice and support. This is one hell of a community you have here, so glad I found you.
  #8  
Old 08-21-2015, 12:04 PM
Egg
 
Profile:Aleksandra is offline
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Owner
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 10
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 10
Rep Power: 0
Aleksandra is on a distinguished road
Default

I took her to a vet who has experience with budgies and especially in treating them for mites. The vet gave me what I'm guessing was Ivermectin and a vitamin mix solution to put in the water. After about a week I brought her to the vet to confirm that she is OK. The vet said there is no need for more Ivermectin because it is rather toxic. She said mites are something like herpes in humans, they/it lies dormant and the person/budgie is fine, but the moment a drop in immunity happens it starts up again. So she gave advice on how to keep her healthy and recommended a budgie breeder who sells and gives advice on all things budgie. She said to buy something that's called grit or sand for pigeons? It's something that helps with the digestion and should develop her appetite so hopefully she'll eat more veggies and fruit (she only eats green-colored things like cucumber, green salad and apples right now).

But I'm still a little worried. She's fine now. A lot more energetic, but the last few days she again took to the floor. She's not fluffed up, has a healthy appetite as always, droppings are normal. All her toys are on the floor and she's closer to the food this way. She remains responsive when there is noise and light, especially during the morning and early afternoon. Maybe it's because the days are getting shorter and about the period when she usually has her rest everything is a lot quieter and gets darker?

Also, between her cere and eye, where she had the tiny bald spots, there are new feathers coming through, but there're also some patches that are a little darker. I'm not sure if it's because she's getting older and I can see the striped feathers are slowly covering her forehead or if it's a reason for worry? She's blue and white, with a little remaining white part on her forehead as I explained.

I feel like I'm being overbearing in worrying about every little thing. I don't know.
  #9  
Old 08-21-2015, 01:54 PM
Jo Ann's Avatar
Jo Ann (Jo Ann)
Member of the Year 2016//Exceptional Service Award August 2016//MOTM May 2013


State:
 
Profile:Jo Ann is offline
Gender:
Number of Budgies: 12+-
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Atlanta area, GA USA
Posts: 4,408
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 11967
Rep Power: 33
Jo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond reputeJo Ann has a reputation beyond repute
Smile Possibly

Relax a little. You are being a good budgie mama. I might suggest a very fine equivalent to classic "grit" Carried by lady gouldian finch. it is very fine particle clay containing an amazing variety of micro minerals needed in a healthy budgie diet. Many videos of wild birds show areas where there are clay deposits containing many of such minerals. Parrots of all species seek these places like a salt lick to provide the nutrient the parrots need. The minerals from lady G are very fine and great to sprinkle daily on soft food. just a tiny bit goe a long way. It is good to watch your bird for abnormal behavior but do not stress.
Weigh your bird every few days in AM and keep a record. This will indicate weight gain /loss patterns compared to your birds suggested weight. Wide variation with abnormal droppings and lack of energy are indicators that your bird may need to see your avian vet. Celebrate the precious time with your budgie.
Jo Ann
__________________

Thanks for the signature FaeryBee
  #10  
Old 08-21-2015, 02:04 PM
FaeryBee's Avatar
FaeryBee (Deborah)
Administrator



State:
 
Profile:FaeryBee is offline
Gender:
Number of Budgies: 7
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Enthusiast
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 53,713
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 2575
Rep Power: 35
FaeryBee has a reputation beyond reputeFaeryBee has a reputation beyond reputeFaeryBee has a reputation beyond reputeFaeryBee has a reputation beyond reputeFaeryBee has a reputation beyond reputeFaeryBee has a reputation beyond reputeFaeryBee has a reputation beyond reputeFaeryBee has a reputation beyond reputeFaeryBee has a reputation beyond reputeFaeryBee has a reputation beyond reputeFaeryBee has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Hi and to Talk Budgies!

Jo Ann has given you excellent advice.

Some budgies like being on the bottom of the cage to forage for food and/or play with toys. If your budgie is not exhibiting symptoms of illness, then that is just fine.
My budgies like to play on their cage floor.

Is your little girl still exhibiting the nesting behavior? If so, you can limit her daylight, reduce foods high in protein, ensure there is nothing in her cage that resembles a nesting place, and rearrange her cage to help bring her out of her breeding cycle.

To familiarize yourself with the forums, please take the time to read through all of the How To Guides, the FAQs and the stickies located at the top of each section of the forum.
You'll find most of your basic questions are answered after you've read through all of them.

I'm looking forward to hearing all about your budgie and hopefully seeing some pictures of her soon!! By the way, what is her name?

TalkBudgies.com Rules and Guidelines
How-To Guides - Talk Budgies Forums
Frequently Asked Questions: Talk Budgies Forums - FAQ
List of Stickies - Talk Budgies Forums

https://talkbudgies.com/general-budgi...e-expense.html
https://talkbudgies.com/emergency-roo...t-aid-kit.html
https://talkbudgies.com/your-budgies-...important.html
https://talkbudgies.com/general-budgi...watch-out.html

https://talkbudgies.com/housing-budgi...age-sizes.html
Essentials to a Great Cage-Talk Budgies Forums

https://talkbudgies.com/how-guides/17...otobucket.html
Examples Of Pictures To Post And Not Post - Talk Budgies Forums
https://talkbudgies.com/mutations-gen...tion-help.html

Helpful Links - Talk Budgies Forums
Budgie Articles Forum - Talk Budgies Forums

If you have any questions after reading through everything, please be sure to ask!

Glad you decided to join us and looking forward to seeing you around the forums.

__________________

Closed Thread



Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:56 AM.



Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright © 2000- 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright © 2006 - , 2403 Networks LLC. All rights reserved.