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Old 10-09-2015, 01:12 PM
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My 17-18 year old budgie August, who has never been sick a day in his life, has been holding up one leg for the past week. He can put a bit of weight on it to move, but immediately holds it up again. Standing on one leg all the time has made him uneven, and a touch wobbly, and he seems a bit shivery. That said, he is still eating, he still flies around perfectly, and he is still interacting and kissing with his BF Dutch.

I have had many friends for August in the past (he outlived all of them). Every time one of my other birds took ill I took them to the vet, paid for medication, but no matter what I did they all died soon afterwards. It has been my experience that the vets mean well, but can't do much for sick budgies.

In addition, August flies free in the room, so it would be challenging to catch him, put him in a cage, and transport him to the vet. It's also almost zero degrees outside here, so I would be very concerned about him catching a chill while transporting him despite putting a blanket over the cage, etc. The birds' room is at about 24 degrees so the cold outside would be a shock no matter what I do.

The two birds spend most of the day on a big rope ring suspended next to the window. Iniitially I thought he may have caught his nail in the ropey material and sprained his leg. It's gone on a week now though, so I'm no longer certain.

Any ideas? My husband thinks I should not bring him to the vet because he feels that
a) he's sprained his leg and it just has to heal on its own (his leg looks fine and he's not sensitive when you touch it - he just can't use it)
b) he's got arthritis in his leg, in which case there isn't much we can do for him
c) he's got a tumour from old age and there's nothing we can do for that

August has never given me a worry ever. I suppose I may have to face the fact that he's reaching the end of his road and leave him to his peace. Or have any of you brought your old birds to the vet and actually had it make a difference?

Thank you for your thoughts.

PS: I could also send a video of his behaviour if that would help.


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Old 10-09-2015, 01:25 PM
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I would definitely post a video so we can see exactly what you're talking about.
IS the vet an avian vet or a general vet? I find avian vets do know what they are doing and can/will help. General vets are as you say, mean well but sometimes aren't helpful.
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Old 10-09-2015, 01:34 PM
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I would take him to an avian vet, which is where I've taken all of the other birds as well.
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Old 10-09-2015, 02:34 PM
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I think the three options you listed are all distinct possibilities and another is that he may have suffered a minor stroke.

It's amazing that August is between 17 and 18 years old. He obviously has been a very healthy bird and happy to be under your loving care.

I think at this point you have to weigh your decision based on how well you think August will handle a visit to the vet. Do you think it will cause him undue stress?
If so, I'd make sure his cage is as easy and comfortable as possible for him to get around. You may want to pad the bottom of the cage with a soft towel as well in case he loses his balance and falls.

We'd love to see a picture of your little "old man".

I'm wishing August all the best for a full and speedy recovery from his sore leg.
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I agree with you and your husband's thought's. I also agree with the advice Deb has given. Hopefully it is a minor sprain. Chamomile tea has light sedative effect's and will also help with any possible swelling. Keep him warm. I echo the sentiment of seeing a pic or two of this grand older fellow...
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Thanks for the kind words.

August is not doing great today. I've had him loose in the room up until now, but I see that his BF Dutch, who is young, is constantly after him for kisses. August keeps having to fly away from Dutch to get a break. I know Dutch is as worried as I am, but I want August to keep up his strength and not have to keep flying all the time.

As such, I was finally able to catch August on the top of his cage and pick him up - an indignity he would never usually put up with (he likes to sit on me, but only on his terms).

I placed him inside his cage and shut the door - which I have never done. I feel terrible doing so, but I feel like he needs a quiet time away from anxious Dutch, and the perch is easier for him to sit on.

He's shivery and unhappy. The two birds are as close to one another as they be with the cage separating them. My gut says not to take him to the vet. I suspect there's something quite wrong but also, that it isn't fixable.

He and I have had an amazing run together. If he's passing, I want it to be in the same place he's lived for the past 17-18 years feeling safe and loved.

My heart is breaking. It's amazing how much you can love a bird.
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It is always very hard to face losing a beloved pet, especially when you've had so many years together.

I hope your little fellow is not in pain.
I am praying for you to have strength during this difficult time. If you need to talk, please feel free to send me a Private Message.
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So sorry to hear that August is not well. I completely understand about your not wanting him to have the stress of a vet visit. I have had 4 birds pass within this last year, all of them had tumors of one sort or another. Two had kidney tumors and passed pretty quickly after being diagnosed, one had a brain tumor and with treatment survived about 5 additional months, one had an ovarian tumor and with treatment survived 14 months after the initial diagnosis. I hated the stress of the vet visits, I actually think it was worse on me than on the birds. However without the vet and the treatment for the last two they would have passed sooner. If you were to go to the vet would it make August more at ease if you took his buddy along? May sound crazy but I did that with my bird with the ovarian tumor, I took her cage mate with every time. He would sit in the carrier and chirp and sing like nothing was happening but she was much more at ease with him there.
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I too hope August.will be ok and pull through, and understand what a worrying time it is for you. As others have said, it is wonderful he has reached such an age. Credit to you and your loving care.(would you maybe share some tips eg what you feed him on...etc..)
I am thinking of.you both. Please keep us posted.x
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Wellred, I am so sorry to hear about August not feeling well. 17-18 years is quite impressive for a budgie. I too would love to see pictures of him. My heart is breaking for you and if you need to chat, feel free to pm me. My hope is that it's only a sprain, but of course you know him better than anyone. You have mine and Lonny's prayers and positive thoughts. Good luck!
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