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Old 10-19-2015, 05:32 AM
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Hi everyone,
I am quite worried about my budgie Orla. I'll tell you a bit about her:

I have owned her for about 20 months (she will be 2 in November) and I bought her from a breeder when she was about 10 weeks old. At the time I had another female named Jo who had French moult, and a few months later I got a little Male called Pip. They all got on well but unfortunately Jo's French moult worsened although we did all we could to make her comfortable, and she died last Christmas. So then I had just Orla and Pip.

These two were very happy in each other's company, although I did notice Orla was starting to get a bit overweight (probably with Pip feeding her).

Then, in august I was out shopping one day and popped into a pet shop to see if they had any good budgie toys. there was one live budgie in there, a little blue male who was in a tiny cage with no more than one perch and no toys, doing such exaggerated aerobics that it looked painful. I could tell he was frustrated at not having any space, so I decided to buy him. Apparently he'd been in that tiny cage at the pet store for 4 months.

I thoroughly disinfected one of my larger cages with budgie safe disinfectant (the vet had told us to be careful about getting any more young budgies as even though they didn't show any symptoms of french moult, they may still be carrying it from Jo) and the newly named 'Alfie' lived there downstairs in quarantine for a good 5 or 6 weeks before he was moved upstairs with Orla and Pip, as he was showing all the signs of a completely healthy and happy budgie, and he was now old enough to be safe from the french moult (as the vet said).

Since then, I noticed Orla was becoming more overweight and gradually less playful. She had never been a particularly bouncy budgie, but she just didn't seem as willing to interact with the other two (who were best buds by now)

I took Orla and Pip to an avian vet for a check up and she said they were both healthy - just that Orla was a bit overweight and to ration her food for a bit. So I did, and she is looking better now but she hasn't been on rations for a week or so now because i wanted to keep them all in a cage together to encourage her to interact. It didn't work, and now she just sits on her own, seemingly irritated by the other two's antics and noise.

She now spends quite a lot of time sitting by herself, feathers fluffed and her tail bobbing. I am a bit confused about the tail bobbing, because she's definitely doing it but it isn't at an unnatural angle, like I read it usually was. She also twitches, like as in tiny single wing flaps so fast you can barely see it occasionally. She still eats, drinks preens herself, flies occasionally and rests on one leg but I'm worried about her.

She just looks like she needs a big hug, although i know she wouldn't appreciate that at all.

I'll try to attach a photo. Shes the light blue.
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From that photo she does seem overweight and it's possible that her excess weight is making her breathing more laboured and that would explain the tail bobbing.
Since both your budgie boys have bonded well and Orla keeps more to herself and is left out by them, maybe it would be best to move her back to the other cage so that you have a better control over her food intake. You can also work with her when she's having out of cage time and encourage her to exercise more to also help her lose the weight.
If you really notice her health declining, then booking another appointment at the vet's would be the best thing to do.

I hope your Orla starts to feel better soon, best of luck with her.
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I agree with Aluz regarding your hen ,and as she is a hen when she comes into condition having two boys there could cause some concern. She definitely looks a bit heavy have you ever weighed her?
Rationing her food intake would be positive for her. Perhaps she is a budgie who is happy by herself, monitor the situation and if she does show other symptoms a return visit to the vet is called for I feel.
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Oh, thank you, Aluz and Cathy! I was really worried it was going to be a respiratory infection or something, but yes, she is still a bit heavy so that may be the reason.

Cathy, the vet did weigh her when we took her and Pip and she was 61g (!), compared to Pip who was 39g. A bit of a difference there, although Pip is quite a little budgie who does nothing but fly around and play all day. I'll put her back in the separate cage now and monitor her food again.

Do you have any ideas how I could encourage her to fly around more? I definitely couldn't chase her as I'm pretty sure she would have a heart attack, and she is a bit tame but when I bring her more than 1m away from the cage she just flies straight back.
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Does she like to play with any special sort of toy? Encourage her to forage for her food, place it scattered on the bottom of her cage floor and hide some so she has to work for it.
I have had to put one of my budgies on a diet recently I leave the seed cup in the cage for half an hour in the morning then take it out, I leave some green healthy foods such as basil, thyme, parsley, spinach, broccoli and such for him to graze on during the day. I then put the seed cup back in the cage around six at night again for another half an hour. This has helped my guy he now can fly much better, and he even waddles around now.
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Thanks Cathy, that feeding plan sounds really good, i'll try it

I've tried loads of different toys with her but she just doesn't seem very interested. She does like to chew wood though - her beak is very sharp (believe me she can cause pain)
Is wood ok for her to chew? (its the climbing frame in the photo that I bought online for them)
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Yes wood is a good choice, she sounds like atypical hen, have you tried any shredding toys with her? Hens quite take to these usually as well, also some of the perches that are different diameters are great.
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Haven't tried any shredding toys with her, that's a good idea. She has perches with lots of different diameters and i've now scattered some seed on the floor of her cage, inside the tiny little cup part of a toy and at the back of her little wooden hut that I made for her.
I was just playing with her and she was being a bit cheeky, not going back in her cage but flying to the other side of the room instead! She must be feeling better.
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Cathy has given you good advice.

You mentioned a little "wooden hut" you built for Orla and I want to caution you that anything resembling a nest or "hiding place" can encourage a female to become "broody" and start laying eggs. This would not be a good thing for your girl, she has enough health issues to contend with already. I'd suggest removing the hut to avoid possible problems.

I'm moving your thread over to the "Follow-Up" section of the forum at this time.

Please post any updates regarding Orla's progress on her weight loss and exercise regimen in this thread. We'll be interested to read about how she's doing.
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Oh thanks Faerybee, i never realised that! I'll take it out and keep everyone updated
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