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Hey everyone, just a bit of background here - I used to be pretty active on Talk budgies a few years back but haven't really been on in a while so forgot all my account stuff - long story short I made a new account because it is quicker.
Okay, so I have had little miss Basil for over 3 years now, and she has been a very healthy, happy and outgoing little budgie. I got a cat about a year and a half ago, and whilst he is also a very lovely cat, his number one hobby is chasing small animals. Fortunately he usually leaves Basil alone because she isn't afraid to shout at him and give a small peck on his nose if he gets too close.
Yesterday I let Basil out, and my cat (as per routine) was shut away in another room. Whilst Basil was having a good time on the window sill, one of my family members forgot she was out and let the cat out too. He heard her straight away and sneaked past everyone before jumping up to catch Basil.
She squawked and tried to fly away (bringing everyone's attention to the presence of the cat), however he jumped and caught her mid flight, fortunately another family member was sitting on the couch by the window and was able to scare the cat away before he did any severe damage.
Basil then flew up to the curtains above the window where she knows she is safe. With the cat put away for the 2nd time, I retrieved Basil and put her back to her cage.
At the time:
- she had no bleeding
- she was still chirping a little (i.e letting out a loud chirp when she landed on the curtains to ensure everyone knows where she is)
- she was panting (I wasn't too surprised by this, she always does this when she is scared and she just had the biggest fright of her life!)
- family member said that the cat was holding on to the back of Basil (not exactly trying to rip her to shreds, but definitely pulled a few feathers out -however not too many)
After returning to her cage I moved her into my room where it was quiet and calm, and talked with her for a while. She was very quiet for the rest of the evening even once she was moved back out to her normal cage place.
This morning, I went to check on Basil and she was regurgitating seeds (she only did this once or twice when she was very little - not common behaviour for her).
She continued to stay silent and fluffed up. She moved from the back of the cage to the front however.
I did not seen her eat or drink for the whole day, though I have seen her poop once. She may have eaten or drinken, but I was not in the room at the time (I was working on an important project in another room from breakfast till lunch, though did check up on Basil periodically).
This afternoon I moved her back to my room. She faced away from me when I went to look at her and talk to her (entirely opposite reaction - she usually comes to the front to give my nose kisses). I decided to take her out of her cage to give her a lookover.
She wouldn't step up when I brought my finger to her, and when I finally got her to step up, she didn't try to stay in her cage. I let her sit up on my shoulder where she usually stays, and she gave me half hearted kisses when I brought my cheek and/or lips to her (kinda brushed her beak against me, instead of tapping me and making a kiss sound).
She also didn't mind me softly rubbing her (she usually tries to step up if I rub her tummy, or just makes an short angry chirp if I rub her back).
She wouldn't step up when I tried to get her to do so again, she just kinda side stepped my finger. I offered her some honey and she wouldn't eat it, so I offered her some seed and she ate a little, then I gave her some water and she eagerly took a few mouthfuls.
She is still fluffed up and won't really move from her spot on my shoulder. She has been out for about an hour or two now and still hasn't pooped. She keeps going kinda big and puffy, then tensing for while like she usually does before she poops - except no poop.
I am very concerned about her. I thought at first it may just be shock but now I am very worried it is something worse. Any ideas? I am thinking about taking her to the vet, but there isn't an avian vet near where I live, and the last budgie I took my vet to died after the vet overdosed him on the mite treatment :/ .
I'm so sorry this has happened. Basil has had a huge fright and could still be in shock or upset about what happened. I (like you) am concerned though that there may be some internal damage done but unfortunately a vet (ideally avian specialist) is the only one who would be able to identify this.
How far away is the nearest avian vet? Is there an exotics vet near you at all?
You need to get Basil to an Avian Vet at once.
She may be suffering from internal injuries and only an Avian Vet is going to be able to give you an accurate diagnosis and treatment plan.
Avian Vets have special training to determine the cause of symptoms resulting from illness or trauma.
When you rely on unskilled individuals, you delay effective treatment. This can prolong suffering that may be avoidable.
The bird will often require a more intense, prolonged treatment with a poorer chance of full recover than it would have if you
seek prompt professional diagnosis and treatment at the first sign of illness.
Cat saliva is toxic to budgies and even if the cat did not break Basil's skin, the saliva on her feathers would have been ingested if/when she preened them.
I am so sorry to hear about little Basil. I also have a cat, but Lonny and I are super vigilant when the birds are out. We NEVER have Jewel in the room when the birds are out. She hasn't EVER had any interest in our flock, and is even terrified of them. BUT, and this is a HUGE but, I would never ever let her within reaching distance of my birdies. I realize that this was an accident, but we have to make sure that every member of the household knows what's going on with what animals, at all times.
Either way I completely agree with Deb about taking her in. This may still be that she's in shock, but there's a good possibility that it's not that. No need taking that kind of chance. I wish you the best of luck at the vet, whether it be avian or exotic. Please keep us osted on her condition. Remember, even if Basil begins to "improve", still take her in. Birds are masters of hiding illness, and just because she LOOKS ok, doesn't necessarily mean that she is. Good luck!!!
Thank you for my wonderful signature Deb!!!
RIP Pepper, Peatri, Holly, Mini, and Quarty
I decided last night after I posted that I would take her to the nearest avian vet as soon as possible; the following morning.
I woke up early this morning after I heard Basil chirping in a very distressed tone.
I found her in her cage, holding onto her perch but hanging upside down.
I quickly cupped her in my hands so that she wasn't hangings hard, I spoke softly to her and as I did she struggled a little bit more before relaxing entirely and let go of both the perch and her final attempts to live.
I am so much more than heart broken; thank you everyone for your advice and thoughts.
I might post something in the tribute section for little Basil later.
I would just like to warn anyone who has found themselves in a similar situation as the above. Please take your budgie to an avian vet as soon as possible. Until then, spend as much time as you can with your budgie, because you never know if that moment together will be your last. Also, you may not realise it but your budgie will treasure your presence and comfort so, so much.
Finally, thank you to Basil; the most beautiful budgie the world has ever known, for waiting for me to be with you one last time, before you finally said goodbye.
I am so deeply sorry for your loss. This is a truly tragic situation but please don't beat yourself up - you did the best you could wish the knowledge you had. Basil is at peace and I hope you can find peace also. Be gentle with yourself and allow this incident to enhance your knowledge. RIP Basil.
I am truly sorry to hear of your sweet Basil's passing, I indeed do remember you from your previous membership. When you are feeling more able please do post a tribute. I am closing this thread as of now.