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Old 12-27-2015, 11:32 AM
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Default Male budgie ill, still feeding young

Hi everyone, I have one 27 day old chick and the parents were both doing perfect, then yesterday I noticed the Dad was fluffed up and looking ill. He hasn't been eating and he's been sitting in the nest box with baby for comfort. I thought maybe it was exhaustion from raising a chick, but now I can see him regurgitating like when they're ill. So I'm thinking either yeast infection or protozoas. I have medication at home already but can I not give it to him when he's still feeding the chick? Will it kill the chick? Please help asap.

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Old 12-27-2015, 11:49 AM
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Hi there,

It's really bad timing for the father budgie to be ill when his chick is at weaning age. At 27 days old, parent raised chicks are in usually well on their way to be fully weaned. This is if we as owners/breeders have been taking extra time with the chicks in terms of encouraging them to try all the new foods.

What is the budgie family's current housing situation? Are the parents separated and has the father taken full charge of finishing raising the chick?

If your couple is still together and the mother is still accepting the chick and feeding it occasionally, then in order to prevent the illness from spreading and further matings from occurring especially when one of the budgies is in a weakened state, place the father budgie on a different cage and have him properly treated.

It would be best to have him checked by an avian vet, so that you will know how to better proceed in curing the illness and to be prepared in case the chick and mother need treatment as well.

Be sure to give some extra help to the chick during the challenging time which is weaning.
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Old 12-27-2015, 12:13 PM
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The whole family are still together. Dad had taken over feeding, but I think Mum has been helping because she knows he's ill. I've phoned an emergency vet and they said they can't help. I'm going to get my hospital cage now, to separate Dad. No vets are open over xmas. The closest avian vet is 24 miles away and they're closed until Tuesday. I have about 2 doses of metronidazole here from previous illnesses,but the emergency receptionist says she can't offer advice on medication. This couldn't possibly be worse.

I've separated him but now he's going crazy trying to get out to get back to the family. He's really stressing out

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This is a very difficult situation to be in.
Did you place his cage in a different room from his mate and chick?
Doing so and turning the radio or TV on for some background noise could help him settle more and adjust faster.
Being ill and still taking care of the family will only take more of a toll on him and he really needs the rest from breeding and finishing raising his chick. Not to mention the potential danger of the illness being spread to his family.

You will have to do your best in trying to nurse him back to health while also keeping a close eye on the chick to see if he is being well fed and help with additional feedings if needed. Now is the time to further encourage the chick to gain his/her independence by offering all kinds of foods to eat and practice in dehusking seeds.
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Thank you so much for helping me. It's so scary when no one can help. He has calmed down now. His cage is in the same room as the family. I know this isn't ideal but I have cats and no other room in the house is suitable to put him in. The tv is on here. I've covered the side of his cage where he can see the family and that seems to have calmed him. I have been trying to encourage weaning the baby anyway. She nibbles millet but doesn't seem to swallow yet. She's been trying to come out of the nest too. I think mum understands that Dad is ill. She was trying to encourage him to be active and eat. She is still feeding baby. Baby spends the nights alone in the nest box anyway. Mum sleeps outside.

Also, all my birds have avigold in their water and egg food. Is this really any good for them? I bought it in the hope that it would prevent things like protozoas. I've bought Guardian Angel as of today for him. It will probably take days to arrive in the post. Will this help at all? He's got cuttle and he has an amazing diet of fresh food. All up until today where he won't really eat.

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You're very welcome, I wish I could do more to help.

It's good that the father is calmer now and the mother has been feeding the chick. Some females are exceptionally good mommas and are able to raise their chicks till they gain their independence, and it seems you have been blessed with the perfect budgie mother.

It's also perfectly normal for the mother to not sleep on the nest for the night. When chicks get mostly feathered and are able to control their body heat, the mother will no longer stay on the nest. Some chicks even protest and want their mommas out of the nest so that they can all sleep with the extra space on the nest.

As to the food, you can offer easy to dehusk seeds like spray millet, canary seed, flax seed and Niger seed. Egg food is also a must, not only is it highly nutritious, but also soft and easy for chicks to eat. You can also offer soft veggies for the chick to try out, soft spinach leaves are a good starter veggie.

I'm not familiar with avigold, so can't offer my input on it.

Guardian Angel can be helpful as it will give a good boost on your budgie's currently weakened immune system.
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It really does help. My birds are Sherbet and Piplup and their breeding journal is on the forum. Baby is called Nova. All was going so well. *sigh*
Sherbet has always been an amazing bird in terms of 'knowing' things. I've always called her 'Nurse Sherbet' because I can tell when one of my other budgies is sick, even before they show signs, because she cares for them. Piplup being her mate made this different, as she is close to him anyway.
I have been offering baby spinach leaves and broccoli to nibble on. I've been very close with her, so I naturally tried to help her wean. I just really hope Piplup will get over this. It kills me. He was so happy with his family.
Thank you so much for the advice you've given me. You can learn about (and see videos of) the whole family on their breeding journal on here. Just search for their names. You'll be able to see how Piplup was acting just days ago, in videos of him. There were no signs of illness at all.

He's going.

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He's dead. I can't believe it. I think there was a problem with his brain. It was all very graphic and awful for him to experience.
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I am so sorry for your loss. I hope your other birds are well and healthy.
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I'm so sorry to hear this, you have my deepest sympathies...

It's possible he had an underlying condition and the breeding exposed his weakness further and sadly to the point of no return.
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