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Old 01-01-2016, 09:38 AM
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Hello Budgie Friends, and Happy New Year. I am hoping you guys might have a little guidance for me for poor little Spiral. Im sure this will be a longer post- thank you all in advance for any help you can give. He was being treated long term for a MRSA infection, quite successfully, down to one antibiotic. A couple days ago, we noticed him favoring one leg, and called our avian vet. Since he was eating and drinking and pooping normally, we made the appointment for yesterday. I thought it might have been a sprain.

Yesterday morning, he had deteriorated badly in a very short time, even from the day before. He was unbalanced, not eating or drinking, and exhibiting fluttering, twittering episodes, which turned out to be seizures. When we arrived at the vet, she examined him and said it looked neurological. The cause is unknown- could be head trauma, viral, or congenital/ organic (defect, tumor). Obviously if it's the latter, nothing can be done. However, she had just returned from a conference where she attended a seminar on treating certain viral avian infections with a powerful feline anti-inflammatory. Who would have thunk, right? It only needs to be administered every 5-7 days, so she administered the first dose, took him off the antibiotic since his lungs sounded better, and said if there is no improvement by Monday we will need to consider euthanasia.

Yesterday was AWFUL. I came home and set him up a warm, soft flat hospital cage with padding all around. He either staggered around, or sat in the warmest spot sleeping, looking very weak and refusing to eat or drink. Our little family spent New Years Eve crying and praying for him as we tried to make him comfortable. I truly thought when we all knelt next to him last night, softly stroking his little feathers, that it was the end. It was just heartbreaking- every time we came near to talk to him, he would try to play his little blinking game.

I was shocked that he was alive this morning. Moreover, he seemed to be less dizzy- no staggering, no seizures. However, I knew if he didn't eat he would die- he had lost quite a bit of weight when the vet weighed him. After trying about eight different combinations of seed, mash, honey, etc., all of which he refused, I made sure he was strong enough to perch, and put him on his favorite play gym with a bowl of his favorite "junk food", the sugary nutra berries that are already shelled. I crushed them up, then put the whole apparatus on my bed where I could sit right next to him. After a slow start, he ate ravenously for about twenty minutes, then seemed to tire out. He's pretty puffed out, so once he started tucking his head to nap, I put him back in his warm cage with fresh padding, water, and seed.

Sorry this is so long- here's my question. How do I manage his schedule today? Should I let him nap for an hour, then try to coax him to eat again? Is that too often or not often enough? Should I supplement the nutra berries with anything- honey, moistened mash, soft veggies like butternut squash? The vet said to give him anything he will eat, so I'm not worried about nutrition as much as energy and calories. I haven't observed him drinking, but I know they can be sneaky about it... Do I need to worry about water intake? Any advice you guys could offer would be so greatly appreciated.

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Oh Hollen I am so so sorry that Spiral is having more health issues. This is a terrible way to bring in the new year. I would try to mist the food he's eating with some electrolyte solution or sugar water, that way at least he can keep up his energy a little.

I'm sorry that this will be short, but I'm just not sure what I can say. I'm kind of in shock that he's sick again. My heart breaks for you, as I know yours is as well. I will pray for Spiral, and for a New Year's miracle for him to get better. I pray it's not a tumor, at least that way it can be treated.

Again, I'm sooooo sorry that you have to go through this again. Our prayers and healing and positive thoughts go out to you in this difficult time. We're both wishing you the best luck with this, and we'll both pray like crazy for Spiral!

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I'm so sorry about Sprial's condition.
It is very important to keep him hydrated.
Perhaps you can offer him a bit of water by putting a spoon with a bit in it right next to his beak.
Using an electrolyte solution is best if he will drink it.

It's promising that he ate this morning. I'd try feeding him a little again in about 3 hour intervals.
Anything he will eat is what I'd give him to keep his strength up.

Sprial is going to be very quiet and needs lots of sleep as his body works with the antibiotic to fight the infection. Consider Spiral sleeping and getting his rest right now to be a good thing.

If you need to talk, please feel free to send me a Private Message. I'll be on and off the forum all day so if I don't reply immediately, be assured I will do so as soon as I see anything you've written.

Sending lots of positive thoughts, healing energy and prayers for Spiral.
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Thank you so much Kristen and Deborah- I really appreciate your replies and prayers. He is resting quietly, but has moved away from the warmest part of the cage and is not as puffed up. I will mist his next meal. Again, thank you for your replies and prayers. I'll keep you posted. I'm still in shock that this little guy has survived thus far!
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I'm so sorry poor Spiral is so unwell and I'm praying for him and you to pull through.

Perhaps you could try juicing his favourite fruit or veg and see if he'll take fluids that way?
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That's a great idea Niamh- time ti whip out that juicer I got for my last New Year's resolution!
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Give him rest, keep him normally warm, put on the tv and have
food available full time, especially anything that he WILL eat. Don't push stuff on him that he rejects. Anything + water or anything he will drink voluntarily is good. Good luck. Long term meds can often take a toll.
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Thanks Phil and Tammy! Phil, I am wondering about the months on antibiotics- the vet said she didn't think it was a Med reaction, but we still took him off just in case- it's been really hard on him. I have an update- he just spent over an hour on his perch eating his nutra berries drizzled with sugar water! When he was done, he was a sticky, sleepy mess, so I took him in our bathroom and began to wipe him down with q tips, which he started to lick! I called for my son to bring the sugar water, and soaked several q tips in it. He licked about 3 sticks dry, and then took a quick sip from the spoon. My only other concern now is he is having watery icky stools, but I'm hoping that might be either a side effect of the medication or a result of being so ill and finally eating. He is now resting quietly in his warm cage on fresh "sheets" with a dish of favorite food and sugar water in his water container. Thank you all for your kind words and prayers. Our vet said she's never seen anything like this sequence of illness in a young budgie. Bad luck. Their whole office has fallen in love with him, and they are trying so hard to get him through this nightmare. Yesterday my husband and I were so scared- he seemed to be really suffering, and we kept questioning whether waiting till Monday to put him down was the right thing to do. We don't want our baby boy scared and in pain. Pray for us that we will make the right decisions for him and our son, who loves his bird so much. We are hoping he will continue to improve!
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Something that could help is a probiotic in liquid or powdered. Most pet stores have it. Also see if you can get an electrolyte from vet or pet store sugar water is OK when he will not eat but now he needs electrolytes instead of plain sugar water. The nutriberries are actually good as they are already hulled and have nutrients on them, misting is good. if he likes millet spray you can lay a piece of millet spray next to him so he can just turn his head for a nibble. Probiotics will help tighten droppings. The extra water he is drinking,soft green foods and lack of balanced bacteria in his gut are three sources that probiotics will help. the antibiotics will strip good as well as bad bacteria from the gut. so replacing it with good while not giving antibiotics is a win. Also getting b vits calcium in him will help his neurological problems. your vet is perhaps delaying this to see if he gets better. I have seen amazing change with these added. Check the nutriberries for what they contain as they often have good nutrient content, Right now nutriberries is a winner. We keep liquid calcium on hand in our first aid kit. Instead of worrying look up stickies on first aid kit and make a list to order from ladygouldian finch and windy city parrot. They will ship international and we get 2 day turn around with Lady G great resource. You can use cornstarch from the kitchen to stop bleeding. This will keep your son busy and doing something and let your bird know you are not giving up. Miracles happen in 2 days. Your little guy deserves one. depleted calcium and B vits will make a bird show nerve and muscle tremors. Check with your vet to be sure they approve. Will pray for recovery for your little one. Prayers and Blessings, Jo Ann:budgi e:
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