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Old 01-02-2016, 09:54 AM
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One of my budgies seems really quiet this morning. She's not playing, she's just sitting on the perch, with her eyes closed and her wings apart as if she's hot. I put the cage outside for some fresh air and she's still like that only she started stretching her neck and spitting out seeds. Her friend is trying to get her to play and she moves for a bit and just goes back to sitting and closing her eyes.
I had two birds originally and one of them always seemed to get illness after illness and my other bird would be completely fine. I removed the sick bird and it died, after a while I got 3 new birds to add to the cage. I know your suppose to keep quarantined before you add them into the main cage, but could my other bird be carrying something and just shows no symptoms? Could my budgies be infected?
Please answer, I live on a tiny island where many vets are not that knowledgeable about birds. I would still take the bird to one but it's a public holiday.

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Old 01-02-2016, 11:43 AM
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She does sound ill and without testing for her or the others it would be impossible to say what could be going on and who has it. What are the droppings looking like ? You said she looks hot, is it extremely warm there ? Bird's like people, can all be affected differently, and she could be heat sick but I am no vet or expert. If it is very hot have you offered a bath or misting ? The more info you can give the more likely some of our more experienced folk's will be able to offer advice/insight. We have a lot of good info in our disease and illness subforum that you should check out to compare with what you are observing. Prayers for your situation, and please keep us posted...
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I suppose it could be overheating, as Randy said, but the closed eyes and wings spread sounds more like she's stressed. Little Ju was vomiting a couple of months ago, too (he's fine now. He must've eaten a bad sprout or something). He was retching like your girl, and he had has eyes closed and wings spread, too. Budgies sometimes close their eyes, spread their wings, and tremble in response to stress, and few things are more stressful than vomiting.

Seeing as there aren't any avian vets around, you'll have to treat her holistically. I'd definitely separate her and put her in a room far away from the others. You should give her Bragg apple cider vinegar, or any other ACV with "Mother" in it, mixed into a fresh dish of water. You should also mix ACV with "the Mother" in it into your other budgies' water.

I'd also make up a cup of ginger tea using a fresh, chopped up ginger root. Pour hot water over it, then serve once it comes to room temperature. She might just be vomiting for no reason, or it could be sour crop, yeast, or bacterial. If it's related to yeast or sour crop, the ACV should fight the little nasties, and the ginger is antiparasitic, antibacterial, antifungal, and should help soothe her tummy and boost her immune system. If I recall correctly, cayenne is antibacterial or something like that, and also purifies the blood and improves circulation. I sometimes mix cayenne in with my kids' sprouts.

You should also give your other budgies ginger tea in case it's infectious. So, in both cages you should have water with ACV in it, and a dish of ginger tea that should be thrown out, washed, and replaced with fresh tea every three hours or so. You'll also want to disinfect the cage they're in. If you don't have any bird-safe disinfectants, you'll probably want to use diluted bleach and put it out in the sun for a couple of hours, then thoroughly rinse it. Obviously you don't want the birds anywhere near the cage while you're cleaning it.

Care to share their diet and whatnot? Oh, and I buy dried lavender from the health food store and keep a dish of it in my guys' cages at all times. It helps with anxiety and stress, and they eat it to help them stay relaxed.
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Okay! So some strong gusts of wind passed and she seemed to get more lively, she's back to exploring and playing with her friends. Thank goodness! Tho I wonder why she was so hot? My other budgie weren't and actually these are some of the coldest months of the year.
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One of my budgies seems really quiet this morning. She's not playing, she's just sitting on the perch, with her eyes closed and her wings apart as if she's hot. I put the cage outside for some fresh air and she's still like that only she started stretching her neck and spitting out seeds. Her friend is trying to get her to play and she moves for a bit and just goes back to sitting and closing her eyes.
I had two birds originally and one of them always seemed to get illness after illness and my other bird would be completely fine. I removed the sick bird and it died, after a while I got 3 new birds to add to the cage. I know your suppose to keep quarantined before you add them into the main cage, but could my other bird be carrying something and just shows no symptoms? Could my budgies be infected?
Please answer, I live on a tiny island where many vets are not that knowledgeable about birds. I would still take the bird to one but it's a public holiday.
Budgies often can be carrying an illness and show no symptoms which is why you should always quarantine any new bird coming into your home for a minimum of 45 days.

Quarantine means housing your new bird in a different cage in a different room as far away as possible from the room where your current bird(s) are housed.
Budgies mask symptoms when they are ill. Symptoms may not show up for over two weeks.
Often you will not even realize your bird is not well. Many budgie illnesses are airborne which is why you need to quarantine your new bird in a completely different room.

That said, as Robyn mentioned, your budgie may be stressed. Try some of the things she's suggested but if the bird does not improve substantially in a day or so then I would suggest you take her to the vet for a proper diagnosis.

Best wishes to your little one for a full and speedy recovery!
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Thank you so much for the advice! I shall immediately take up all these remedies. Any more tips? I want to be super prepared in case there's any birdie emergencies. Oh and my budgies eat seeds, oats, apples, spinach, egg food, and the occasional tomato. I'm still working on getting them used to more variety, especially veges.

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Do you have a birdie first aid kit set up?

If not, I would recommend you do so.
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If there are no Avian Vets on St. Luicia, then I'd look for an Exotic Pets Veterinarian who has experience with birds. I'd suggest you call and make an appointment to speak with the vet to establish a relationship in case you need help with a budgie illness or injury at any time.

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I agree with all advice given, I sincerely hope it's just a passing thing and she'll be just fine soon.

Robyn has also given good information regarding holistic ways to treat her, although a vet can sometimes be your best option, it still can't hurt to use these methods

Best of luck and please keep us updated on her condition!

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I'm glad she seems to be feeling better . Maybe she was vomiting for no reason like Ju? That'd be nice, but better safe than sorry, eh?

When it comes to my kids, we haven't really had any productive vet visits. They were more cash grabs than anything. If you can find a knowledgable vet, that'd be great ! Meanwhile, I typically use holistic remedies for minor things. I've had budgies for years and I know my kids well, so I'm definitely not suggesting skipping the vet !

It sounds like you're doing a pretty decent job when it comes to diet. It can definitely be hard getting them to try new foods. My guys need to have their veggies prepared in very specific ways. Heck, they'll only eat peas if they're fresh from the garden! Oh, and don't even try giving my guys apple more than once every couple of weeks .
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Can you imagine we called a vet and he said he didn't know much about birds and we were better off checking out the internet. He also gave us the number of someone he thinks owns lots of budgies and could maybe give us some advice. Lol, I couldn't believe it, and he's one of the most popular vets on the island. Thank your lucky stars you live where you live my people.
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