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She probably got it. In a fight. Does it look bad . should I be worried??
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Hi there and to the forums!

To answer your question: no, it's not serious, it appears her cere was damaged in some way, and now the wound has scabbed over. It should heal on it's own

However, it's important that you recognised what caused the injury so it doesn't happen again, or incite something worse.

How many budgies do you have housed with her? Do you know their genders for sure? How large is the cage?

Also, have you ever noticed any aggression between her and her cage mate(s)? If "she probably got it in a fight", has this happened before?

If you ever notice your budgies "fighting" or blood is ever drawn in a squabble, budgies must be separated immediately to prevent future injury and preserve the mental as well as physical health of both birds.

You should keep an extra cage on hand in case this ever needs to happen (can be the same as your hospital cage when you see the vet for short term stays) and also be acquainted with things to have on hand as a "Birdy First Aid Kit" for emergencies.

You should read through the articles in the forum at the top of each subforum, called the "stickies". There, you're sure to find lots of information you may already know, as well as some new information that will be useful in caring for your budgies

Here's a few to get you started
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Articles: Budgie Disease and Illness - Talk Budgies Forums

If you have any questions after reading anything, please do ask as we'd be happy to help!

Even with her injury, you have a very pretty girl--what's her name?

I hope to see you around the forums, and keep us posted on how she heals If you notice she isn't getting better or the wound seems infected/worse, it's best to take her to a qualified avian vet for the best treatment.

I'm glad you joined us!
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Thanks so much for the info. Her names Venus. And I hope it's not bad then. . do you know of any way to stop them fighting? She has 3 other companion. I'm getting them a larger cage soon.
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Thanks so much for the info. Her names Venus. And I hope it's not bad then. . do you know of any way to stop them fighting? She has 3 other companion. I'm getting them a larger cage soon.
What a pretty name!

What are the genders of the other three? Do you know the exact dimensions of the cage?

The only way to "stop" the fighting is to remove Venus from their cage to prevent her from being hurt even more. She must be separated from them since you mention they do fight often, which is not a good situation.

Sometimes, even a bigger cage will not solve the problem--I am glad they are getting a bigger cage, but I would also get another cage that is at minimum 18 inches X 18 inches X 18 inches (the minimum space for 1 budgie) so Venus can live by herself there in peace for a little while while her cere heals.

Do they fight over each other (i.e males competing for female), or do they bicker over food bowls, perches, or other spots in the cage?

Is she the only one being targeted?
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Star is giving you excellent advice so I'm not going to chime in.

I will say "welcome" to the forum and ask that you post a thread in the Introductory section when you have time.

Best wishes!
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1 male and 2 females are with her. They fight about the things you listed around food dish, spots in the cage, perches. But I don't think because of mating. My boy blue gets along with Venus very well and ivy, sometimes fights with Tweety my other girl . Tweety and Ivy (girl) get along well tweety is the bully out of them all. Their cage is about 2 1/2 feet tall very wide. And I will certainly take in consideration what you recommended. And I have another larger cage for Venus.

Will music calm then ? Anything else I need to know? Thank you

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Well, generally, it's best to have an even ratio of males to females, which could be contributing to the fighting. In this case, since Tweety is the bully, keep an eye on her and make sure she doesn't harm anyone else. If you've ever seen her fighting with any of the others, she may have to be separated permanently.

However, if Tweety is good friends with Ivy, you may consider putting Venus and Blue in their own cage and Tweety and Ivy in their own. They could still play outside of their cages together, but would be housed separately to prevent those types of arguments.

Although this is a good option, for right now I would go ahead and separate Venus first so she can heal properly without being picked on. Meanwhile, you should make sure that every budgie has their own food bowl, as well as a similar perch/swing, to eliminate the need for that type of bickering. It may be a lot, but it could significantly lower the arguments that occur. Also, once they are in the bigger cage, there will be more space for more food dishes, perches, etc, as well as space for each other.

You can put Venus' cage next to the others' cage for now, so she can still hear them and see them. If it seems she misses her friends, you can move Blue in with her and see if that makes her feel better.

When she heals and the new cage arrives, you can try putting her in with the others, but make sure they are carefully supervised. If it seems things have been resolved with the increased space and enough food bowls and perches to go around, they may be able to live together again.

However, since Tweety is the main bully, she may just be fighting with the others because she is trying to chase them away from "her" things, and it may never stop. Females tend to be aggressive and moody, especially when they are in condition, so if Tweety isn't already in condition, she may get even worse when she is.

So, my advice is to separate Venus so she can heal, and if she seems upset to leave her flock, you can put Blue in with her. Once the new cage comes, you can try to put them all together again, but at the first sign of aggression from Tweety towards anyone, she will have to be housed separately. If it is only Venus she is aggressive towards, Ivy could be housed with her, and if she's just mean to everyone, she may do better in her own cage on a permanent basis.

Budgies love music In fact, silence means danger to them since in the wild, when the flock fell silent, it meant a predator was near. Playing music for them is a great idea, and when you leave you should leave the radio on for them

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Any time blood is drawn, the budgie who has been injured should be removed right away, and the bully should be caged separately in the future to avoid fights. However, since in this case, they have argued over specific things in the cage (i.e food, perches, swings) then under strict supervision only I would advise to try putting them together after they are in a new, larger, rearranged cage and observing if their relationship changes.


Keep us posted on the flock and I hope everything goes well!
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I will put them with their friend in separate cages until the new cage gets here. But I will make sure Venus' nose heals first. And I will certainly follow your recommendation ! Thanks a lot!
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I will put them with their friend in separate cages until the new cage gets here. But I will make sure Venus' nose heals first. And I will certainly follow your recommendation ! Thanks a lot!
That's great to hear I hope everything goes well and that Venus is better in no time
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