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Old 02-29-2016, 02:56 AM
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Hi!
I've noticed that my budgie, Hedwig, has had some weird crust around her eye for the last couple of weeks. I thought it would eventually come off but unfortunately, it hasn't. My brother tried to get a closer look at her today but she does not like being held at all. Her beak and cere also looks a little off as well.

I'm suspecting mites but I'm not too sure. She's in a cage with my other budgie, Pidgey, and he seems fine. She's been eating and pooping normally as well.

Should I be worried?
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Old 02-29-2016, 05:01 AM
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Hi stupor,

It does look to me like Hedwig may have mites.

There are two options you can take. Either take both birds to the vets for treatment (even with Pidgey showing no symptoms, he should still be treated).
Otherwise you need to get a spot on mite treatment for small birds that goes on the back of their necks.
Use this to treat both birds.

Whatever action you take, you will have to thoroughly clean their cage out, all perches, toys etc. and anywhere they perch outside of the cage needs to be cleaned as well.

Good luck.
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Welcome to the forums!

I agree, your budgie does have mites and those growths you see on the eye are mite clusters. You really need to have this addressed as soon as possible as it must not be comfortable to have the mites burrowing especially on the eye area.
If possible have Hedwig seen by an avian vet, so that she is prescribed with the right dosage of treatment.
It's very likely she will need multiple treatments and it's important to wash and disinfect everything thoroughly after each mite treatment.
You will also need to treat Pidgey and any other bird(s) that have been in contact with Hedwig.

I hope you will soon be rid of the mites for good!
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Hi Amy and to Talk Budgies!

I would suggest you take your budgies to the Avian Vet for treatment as Hedwig's case of mites is fairly advanced and may need multiple treatments as aluz indicated.
Both budgies will need to be treated and the cage, perches, toys, etc. will need to be thoroughly cleaned and disinfected to prevent re-infection of your birds.

Avian Vets have special training to determine the cause of symptoms resulting from illness or trauma. This is important as "regular" vets will often overlook symptoms that are quickly obvious to an Avian Vet.
When you rely on anyone who has not had training in Avian diagnosis and care, you may be delaying effective treatment. This can prolong suffering that may be avoidable.
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Hi all!
Thank you so much for the welcomes and speedy replies!

Now that I think about it, I have been seeing a lot of scratching from Pidgey and Hedwig, in particular. They've also been rubbing their heads against their perches as well. There has also been a lot of fluff lying around their cage and the floors. I honestly do not know how they got the mites. I got them in this January and if I'm not mistaken, mites take a while to show? Perhaps they were already infested when I first bought them home?

Anyway back to fixing the problem! --
I don't think I'll be able to get them to an avian vet quick enough and I want to start treatment as soon as possible. I think the closest avian vet is about an hour or two away and I've got school. No-one at home can get them there either, so I'm beginning to look into the treatments they sell at pet stores.

When I get home today, I will definitely be disinfecting everything. I'm a little lost though. I hear that there are home remedies, like swapping the infected areas with vaseline and paraffin oil. Apparently, it's supposed to suffocate the mites? What are your thoughts on that? To be honest, I'm a little hesitant on that method. The last time I can came close to the birds with a cotton swap, they started biting it! And I feel like when they groom each other, they're going to get a mouthful of vaseline.


I've been looking at these two treatments from the store:

1. Aristopet Bird Scaly Face & Leg Treatment
https://www.petstock.com.au/products...eatment_-_25ml

This has the liquid paraffin in it.


2. Vetafarm Avimec Budgie Topical Liquid
Vetafarm Avimec Budgie Topical Liquid 50ml

I've been reading on some other forums and a lot of the breeders have been saying that Ivermectin is supposed to be really good at getting rid of the mites.

Which one should I get? I wish I could get them to an avian vet but I haven't got the time or money to do so..

Thank you so much again!!

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It's very likely they already had them when you got one of them, most likely little Hedwig.

As an avian vet visit isn't possible for you at this time, I would proceed with a spot on treatment (Ivermectin).


Do not waste time cleaning the cage out until you have treated the birds.

My budgie was suffering with SFM when I got him and the following routine worked for me.

I let my bird out of his cage and took his cage out of the room and thoroughly rinsed the whole cage using a pet safe cleaner. I cleaned every bar, toy and perch. Anything wooden I threw away.

I retuned the cage full cleaned and dried and caught my bird, used the treatment on him and returned him to his cage.

While he was in his cage, I treated any areas he would perch in the room. I cleaned everything I could and removed anything I couldn't clean.

I would be very careful with hedwig because of how close the mites are to his eye. I never had that with my case.
I made a post detailing Jimmy's progress against SFM and you can see the improvements made.

I found it quite scary to start with, but your birds will get better.

With Jimmy, I followed up a second treatment 4 weeks later. He's been healthy and happy ever since.
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The VetaFarm Avimec is fine to use. You need to put a drop on the back of the head area so the birds can not reach it and lick or ingest it.
Be careful with the dosage. I suggest you have the does ready and have somebody else hold your budgie whilst you apply the Avimec. It will need to be repeated . Mites can be smothered but the eggs will hatch and you will have an ongoing problem.

As the Emergency has been dealt with and you know what needs to be done I am moving this thread to Follow Up, please keep us up to date and the Mite situation here.
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I'm glad to hear your little owls are receiving the treatment they need and I hope they both make a full and rapid recovery!

You've been given great advice and I hope everything goes well. Please keep us posted!

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Hi all!
Just an update -
I started the birds' treatments two weeks ago and they've had two dosages now. Everything is looking good so far. A lot of the crusts around Hedwig's eye has cleared up so I'm expecting a full recovery soon.

Thank you so much guys!
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That's great news, thank you for updating on Hedwig and Pidgey!
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