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Old 05-15-2016, 01:40 AM
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Exclamation Egg Bound Quail!

I know that she isn't a budgie, but I really need your help!
I'm pretty sure my female King quail is egg bound
When I went in The aviary a little while ago, I saw her trying to lay an egg.
Then, when I went back in there later, she was running around with her mate, like she normally does. I noticed that the there were the same amount of eggs as there were the day before, meaning that she hadn't layed the egg.
So I carefully picked her up, and examined her vent.
I can clearly see the egg inside her.
I gave her more than 30minutes to lay the egg, but she still hadn't done it in that time.
I've brought her inside, in a box with a hot water bottle.
I would take her to the avian vet, but for some Unknown (and dumb-no offence) reason, they are closed on the weekends! They are available for call consultations and emails, and I have emailed them, but they haven't gotten back yet, and I'm not sure how much that will do
And after reading this Egg bound death -- The Button Quail Bulletin Board
I don't really trust the other vets that aren't Specialised in birds.
I got her to drink water, and eat some boiled egg.
I hand fed her my emergency medicine, but I really don't know what else to do.
It doesn't even seem like she is trying to lay the egg anymore.
Someone please help!

Just wanted to add though, I feed my quails fruits and vegetables daily, boiled egg every third day, and they have constant access to shell grit.


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Old 05-15-2016, 03:35 AM
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Hello Lain, do the avian vet have an emergency number you can call? Place the box with her in in a bathroom and make some steam by leaving the hot water tap on humidity sometimes help can you gently massage some olive oil or similar around her vent? I am really only guessing at this stage.
Can you ring an Avian vet and speak to them, ask them for some advice? if all else fails there are online Avian vets you can have a consult with. But a hands on exam is what is needed for your bird. I hope you get some help for her. Sending my best wishes for her safety. Please let us know what happens.
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Old 05-15-2016, 04:17 AM
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Thank you so much for your advise, we have now massaged olive oil on her with a cotton tip.
She is once again pushing at the egg.
They do have an emergency number, but for some reason, when we called it, it said something about it being after hours and unopperated.
It really does suck (sorry) that no vets are open Sunday!
I have also messages the online avian vets, butttt they haven't replied yet.
Anyway,
We have put the shower on, and are just about to move her into there.
I also replaced the hot water bottle with a heat lamp.
I have my fingers crossed, but I know that she really needs some attention from a proper avian vet.
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I'm very sorry for your current predicament and sadly in these cases, the medical assistance from an avian vet specialist is really needed.
Isn't there a 24 hours emergency vet clinic or hospital with an avian vet available?
This is a very delicate situation and procedure and until you find help, you do well in placing your quail on a steamy room, the extra humidity can be of benefit to her.
Unfortunately, even if you get a response from the online avian vets, they won't be able to physically perform the procedure.
I'm sending my prayers and best wishes for your quail's full recovery and hope you will find a qualified avian vet very soon..
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Thank you so much everyone.
She is still pulling through.
Unfortunately, the 24hr vets here are not qualified avian vets.
It really makes things difficult!
The three avian vets closest to me are all closed on Sundays.
Again, thank you for your help.
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If you have liquid calcium give it directly into her beak. Keep her warm in a humid environment so the steamy shower room is perfect.

You can also bathe her vent in warm water just make sure to keep her warm afterwards.

If she is still running around and not lethergic i wouldnt be too concerned just yet. Generally once egg bound they become lethergic from trying and failing to push the egg out.
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I'll have to agree with CaptainHowdy. I've never had an egg bound quail, but from your description I'm not even sure she was egg bound in the first place. In my experience (I've had button quail for a bit more than a year), it's completely normal for them to stop in the process of laying an egg and go back to it later. I think you might have stressed her into not laying the egg by taking her in. Everything I read about egg bound birds, says they are clearly straining, panting, sometimes with the beak open - definitely not 'running around as usual'.
If she is still not showing any of the above mentioned symptoms, I actually think you should put her back with her mate and keep a close eye on her.
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Thank you very much for your input.
So, that's what I thought at first, which is why I left her in there for a while after, but she still hadn't layed the egg, so I grew concerned. I have put her mate in the box with her in the hopes that it may comfort her.
Here is a picture that I just took right now.

She is still walking around like normal, as I said, but she occasionally stops, sits in place for several minutes and begins puffing and fluffing her feathers up.
How long can she hold the egg in for?
The first time I went into feed them this morning was around 8:00am, and it's now 8:09pm.

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Lain,

I hope she's doing a bit better--egg bound or not, it's still good to keep an eye on her and I would still give her liquid calcium if you have any.

You're doing everything so far to help her as best you can if the egg really is stuck. Keeping her mate with her might make her feel better, so that's good. m

I have no other relevant advice, but stay calm and positive

Keep us posted on how she's doing!
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I truly hope she'll be alright and pass the egg soon.poor little sweetie.sending comforting prayers for her.
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