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Hello everyone!

Two days ago my parakeet started to tremble, it lasted for almost all the day and it looked like she was having difficulties while evacuating, like if there was something and she was trying to push it away.
During late afternoon she started to have heavy breath, but after a while, fortunately, she returned to breath normally.
From yesterday she isn't trembling anymore, but she still has difficulties while evacuating, like if there's an egg in the way.
I can't take her to a veterinary, because in this period of the year they all went on holidays.
The only thing I could do was contacting them by phone and it seemed that they agreed it could be that she's trying to laying an egg.

Did anyone experience something like this?
What should I do?

Something more about her: she never had a male companion and it's 4 years that she's at home.

I thank everyone in advance for reading this message!

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Hi there and welcome to the forums,

I'm very sorry your budgie hasn't been feeling well. By looking at the vent area, do you happen to see swelling there or a protuberance that seems to be shaped like an egg?
A few days ago, before your budgie started to show signs of being ill and struggling, did you notice an increase in size of her poops?

If your budgie is truly egg bound, then she really needs emergency, professional help from an avian vet specialist. While some vets may be currently on vacation, surely there must be a veterinary hospital that has avian vet services or a 24 hours/emergency clinic that has an exotics or avian vet available.

While you look for an avian vet, you can place your budgie's cage on the bathroom, close the door and run the shower hot in order to create a steam room. The higher humidity can help your budgie to feel better and depending on the case, it can facilitate the egg laying.

I'm sending my prayers and best wishes for your budgie's recovery and hope you will be able to have her seen by an avian vet as soon as possible.
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Thank you infinitely for your reply!

By the way I'm sorry for not introducing me in the appropriate section, since I'm worried about my parakeet, I didn't think about it.

Yes, the vent area seems to be swollen!
I tried to watch from near when she tries to evacuate and I could see something coloured white.
I hope I'm not wrong however.
The only thing I could notice before she started to behave like this was that she used to put a bit more of strength while pooping, but it still was normal.
She even used to play a lot with the paper I put on the bottom of the cage after cleaning it.
She always tried to make some kind of "house" or to better say a nest.

Unfortunately I couldn't find neither one veterinary having the day free, everyone is in holidays.
At home we tried to contact all of the ones we have near us and they managed to give us only some info.

Thank you infinitely even for the suggestion!
One of the veterinaries told to put next to her bottom a bottle filled with hot water, so the steam could help her dilatate better. However I didn't know how to proceed because she could get scared by the bottle. The suggestion of the steam from the shower seems to be easier to do!

Little news as I'm writing:
I tried to apply vaseline oil as suggested by one of the veterinaries we tried to call.
It seems that now an egg is even more visible.
Again I'm not 100% sure, but it seems it really is an egg!
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Yes, from your description your budgie is really struggling with an incoming egg.
At the impossibility of having her assisted by an avian/exotics vet, an experienced budgie breeder could be of help.
Unfortunately, this is a life-threatening situation and the procedure is very delicate.
I wish I could be of more help... All I can do is send my prayers for your budgie to pass that egg with as little complication as possible.
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Thank you again!

I even tried to contact the shop where they deal about parakeets.
But the only thing they could help about was knowing if she really has to lay an egg.

Currently I can only try to help her as much as is in my power and hope that everything will go fine!
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I'm very sorry to hear your little girl is struggling to lay right now.

Please take a look at the information in this link.
Perhaps some of it may be helpful to you in some way.

https://talkbudgies.com/articles-budg...revention.html
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My parakeet managed to lay the egg!
I'm really happy!

Here are some photos:
My parakeet after laying the egg.
She looks really tired in this image, but now she returned active as normal!

This is the egg from different sides:
Here, here and here!

Thank you everyone for helping me!
I only have another question:
Should I remove the egg from the cage?
Currently my parakeet doesn't seem to care about it.
Even if it isn't a living egg I thought she might still go to see it, that's why I didn't remove it yet.
Ah, one last question:
Is it rare or it can happen again that she'll lay an egg?

Thank you infinitely again!
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I'm glad and relieved that your budgie has managed to lay the egg successfully!

Yes, you can remove and dispose of the egg. Now it's important to make sure your budgie doesn't have an easy access to the paper at the bottom of the cage where she can use the shredded bits as a nest.
No hiding spots should be available on the cage.
You will find detailed info on discouraging egg further egg laying on this link:
https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...want-eggs.html

Once your budgie feels better, you can rearrange her cage or move her to a spare cage in order to facilitate process of coming out of breeding condition and of breaking the egg laying cycle.

Since she had a lot of trouble in passing this egg, it would be good to get her a liquid calcium supplement to add into her water.

If you have millet spray on hand, you can soak some in electrolyte solution and offer it to her. This will hopefully give her a little boost.
https://talkbudgies.com/your-budgies-...te-recipe.html

I hope your budgie recovers well from this ordeal and there are no further egg problems.

From the photo, it seems your budgie has an abnormal growth on her cere (possibly hyperkeratosis/hypertrophy of the cere) and in some cases this can compromise the breathing when the nostrils start to close.
If this hasn't already been addressed, then it would be good for you to have this seen when your trusted avian vet comes back from vacation.
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I went through the same thing with my budgie, with the exception of having difficulty laying her egg. My girl layed three eggs without being encouraged to do so. After she layed the first egg I disposed of it, I put the grate back on the bottom of her cage, rearranged her cage, put her to bed early and she layed another which she accidentally broke. Then came the third egg which she did sit on until that one broke as well. After making all changes to her life style she continued to behave as if she wanted to lay more eggs. After a lot of reading and talking to a friend who worked in a vets office, I ordered fake eggs. I gave her two eggs and she sat on them and just like I read would happen, she got bored of sitting on them with nothing happening and she abandoned them. Since she has been good, hasn't layed anymore eggs. Keep a close eye on your girl's behavior. Good luck!
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aluz has given you excellent advice.

Hopefully with the changes you make in her cage, limiting the amount of daylight and limiting the protein in her diet, this will be a one time thing for her.

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