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Old 08-27-2016, 01:25 AM
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My baby boy, Frankie, has been acting really concerning this evening.

His wings have been mostly out, his feathers very tight to his body, which i'd always heard was a sign of just being over heated. I've seen my birds do this a few times, and i'd usually open a window a crack and get them some ventilation. However, it's quite cool in the room, and he's had his wings lifted to varying degrees for a good few hours now-- none of the other birds are doing this.

He's been grinding his break a lot, and was sitting on a perch completely hunched and leaned forward. When his wings are out, they occasionally shake/vibrate a little bit, but he swill keeps them up. He's started grooming and flying a bit, and doing the things that budgies do, but the sudden lethargy and unhealthy stance + the lifted wings has me concerned.

Any advice from people that have seen something similar before?

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Old 08-27-2016, 06:42 AM
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Hi there,

From your description it does seem that your budgie is overheating.
Are you sure he was actually beak grinding and not panting? There is a difference between these two actions.
If your budgie hasn't been feeling well and has been truly lethargic, then I doubt he was really beak grinding as this is associated with the bird being perfectly well, happy, content and relaxed. When panting, a budgie will successively open and close the beak and during this motion you will be able to see the tongue sticking out a bit. There is no "chewing" or "grinding" beak movements while panting. Panting is another clear sign of overheating, in case you don't know.

If this is an hydration issue, you can offer your Frankie a dripping wet leafy green for him to eat and possibly bathe in. This can also be accomplished with a tiny piece of fruit.
To check for hydration, you will have to look at your budgie's feet and eye areas. The physical signs for dehydration are when the feet seem dry, the eyes have more of a sunken, not as shiny look and the eyelids are more wrinkly looking.

If Frankie is truly unwell and lethargic then it would be best to have him seen by an avian vet specialist as soon as possible.
Until then, and to help with hydration, you can give him water mixed with electrolytes or soak some millet on electrolyte solution.
You will find the details here: https://talkbudgies.com/your-budgies-...te-recipe.html

I hope your Frankie feels better soon.
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Old 08-27-2016, 10:02 AM
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from what you've described I would be taking him to an avian vet immediately.
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I agree that the best course of action is to take Frankie in to an Avian Vet for a proper diagnosis.
If Frankie is dehydrated, he may need to be given fluids by the doctor.

I'm wishing your little fellow all the best.
Please be sure to update us on his condition in this thread after seeing the vet.
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Thanks for all the responses, guys, it's really comforting!

I would have gladly taken him to the vet were it possible for me to afford it. Frankie had seen the vet not just a few months ago for a suspected bacteria infection, and $800 CAD later, my partner and I are still struggling with bills-- not to mention my dwindling health situation has put me in a terrible spot with little finances, and certainly not enough for another really big vet bill like that.
Long story short, i do not have anywhere close to the money it would cost to get him into a specialist...

I've given him some dripping wet leaves, and he's had a bit of a dip and drink in his bath, and the wings coming up is still an issue, but he's become a bit more playful, alert-- still not as vocal as I know he can be, but he's better than he was, or at least acting it. I'm definitely going to go out later so I can get him what he needs for an electrolyte solution. Fingers crossed...

I'll keep the situation updated here, thanks again!
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I hope he's ok and gets well soon. Sending love and hugs xx
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I'm moving your thread over to the "Follow Up" section of the forum at this time.

We'll be looking forward to your updates on Frankie's condition.
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Hey guys, thanks again for all your messages.

We've been feeding Frankie the millet soaked in the electrolyte solution, but things still don't seem too great for him...

His wings will still over stay out when he's lounging around. He doesn't vocalize nearly as much as he used to still, and spends a lot of his active time grooming. I want to take him to vet, but I still am having a hard time paying off my bill from last time and don't think I can feasibly do it again...

Any other suggestions as to some basic home remedies or anything that I may be able to help him with?
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There is nothing we can recommend as there is no way for us to diagnose Frankie's problem - only an Avian Vet can do that for you.

The most we can offer is to make sure he has water to bathe in, or wet leaves to rub against, or lightly mist him (Spray the water into the air above him and let it come down on him - don't spray him directly)

If Freddie is lethargic there is an underlying issue that really needs to be addressed if he is to recover -- especially since he's already been ill for two weeks now.

When you rely on anyone who has not had training in Avian diagnosis and care, you may be delaying effective treatment.
This can prolong suffering that may be avoidable.
The bird will often require a more intense, prolonged treatment with a poorer chance of full recovery than it would have if you seek prompt professional diagnosis and treatment at the first sign of illness.
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