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Old 09-09-2016, 07:30 PM
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Exclamation Bleeding??

My budgie is roughly 13 or 14 years old. I inherited him when a relative passed about two years ago and he had had a fatty tumor on his stomach. She had previously taken him to the vet and the vet informed her he would die during any kind of surgery. The tumor hasn't gotten bigger ( I believe ) and so he has been fine.

This morning when I uncovered him there was blood all over in his cage, on his mirror, on the bottom, on his perch, everywhere. He wasn't whistling, talking to himself, making noise, anything. He has started doing all those things now but he still doesn't seem himself. I have three guesses.

One: Something going on with his tumor?

Two: He swallowed the chain on his mirror? He has a little sunflower mirror and it always had a little chain hanging off it with nothing attached and he'd lick and chew on it, when we first got him I was worried he'd swallow it but I stopped pulling it away from him because it was pointless. I feel stupid for not cutting it now. It could be my imagination but the chain seemed shorter.

Three: His nails? He won't let us cut them because he doesn't trust us and his previous owner was really old and couldn't do it herself. I'll go and check them out after this post.

Does anyone know what this is? Is there anything I can do to help him?
Any information would be appreciated.
I honestly don't know what to do '~'


Edit:
Does metal poisoning cause bleeding? His cage is very old and rusty, so are his toys.


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Old 09-09-2016, 07:42 PM
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I'm not that experienced, but keep him warm and bring him to the avian vet? I am so sorry to hear he is sick (( sending you all my prayers that he will get well soon!
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I'm not that experienced, but keep him warm and bring him to the avian vet? I am so sorry to hear he is sick (( sending you all my prayers that he will get well soon!
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It's most important you find the source of the bleeding first.
Once that is established then an Avian Vet can help determine what the best course of treatment will be.

you need to examine him carefully to see if you can determine where the blood came from. See if there are any marks on him anywhere that indicate he may have injured himself.
Check his vent area to see if it looks as though the blood was passed through the digestive tract.

It's really inadvisable to allow a budgie to be in a rusty cage with rusty toys and that needs to be remedied right away. Why have you allowed the poor bird to remain in a rusty cage with rusty toys for two years now?
And, please remove whatever is left of the chain you mentioned from the toy it is on immediately.

https://nilesanimalhospital.com/files...-Pet-Birds.pdf

If you find the source of the bleeding, please let us know.

I strongly suggest you get the bird into an Avian Vet as an emergency appointment for help.
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You could see whether anything in the cage probably has caused harmed to him.
In the previous day(s), did anything seem weird? Was he a bit less active? A bit less chirpy? Was he eating well like normal, (check his droppings!), drinking water, playing well?
Did he have signs of overheating or sitting at the bottom of the cage? Did you notice something in the cage he'd often play with a lot? Check him for any signs of bleeding or any "strange spots". Check his vent area, the temperature of his feet, is his feathers good? Check his eyes to see if it's okay, find out whether any blood may have come from whichever in the body.

I have researched a while ago that budgies can get sick of metal poisoning. If it's really old and rusty, you should most DEFINITELY get him a new one, and depending on the toys condition, if it seems really old and could harm him, you really should replace and get new ones and wash them.

If there were no symptoms from the previous day(s), and the chain you think has become shorter, then you must book the soonest appointment you can to the avian vet. If the chain did become shorter, it may lead to further problems in the body and digestive system and him trying to poop it out.
It could also be mites but possibly other things.
To be on the safest side, book an appointment to the avian vet and tell them what has happened and whatever you've witnessed!

Good luck and I'm sorry to hear your bird sick. It must be terrifying.
Will be praying.
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It's most important you find the source of the bleeding first.
Once that is established then an Avian Vet can help determine what the best course of treatment will be.

you need to examine him carefully to see if you can determine where the blood came from. See if there are any marks on him anywhere that indicate he may have injured himself.
Check his vent area to see if it looks as though the blood was passed through the digestive tract.

It's really inadvisable to allow a budgie to be in a rusty cage with rusty toys and that needs to be remedied right away. Why have you allowed the poor bird to remain in a rusty cage with rusty toys for two years now?
And, please remove whatever is left of the chain you mentioned from the toy it is on immediately.

https://nilesanimalhospital.com/files...-Pet-Birds.pdf

If you find the source of the bleeding, please let us know.

I strongly suggest you get the bird into an Avian Vet as an emergency appointment for help.
We have tried to give him a new cage before, he wigged out because he had been so used to his old one. I don't know what to do about that situation :\ We removed the chain immediately. I will further examine him but I haven't previously found and marks and no blood on his body?
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Try checking him again for the source of the blood and please make an appointment with an Avian Vet to have him checked out and properly diagnosed.

For his health and well-being, he is going to need to be moved into a cage that is appropriately sized, the spacing between the bars should be no more than 1/2" and that has no rust on it. The very minimum size cage for one budgie would be 18"x18"x18".

Try to find similar toys to the ones he has currently and set up the new cage in the same way the old one was.
You can cover the top and three sides of the new cage once he's in it to help him feel more secure. Play music for him and sit next to the cage and talk to him calmly and reassuringly.
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I'm sorry to hear of the situation with your budgie. It's imperative that you find the source of his injuries as well as get him a new cage as soon as possible so that he has the best chance of recovering from whatever happened. Could he have cut himself on the sharp corner of a toy or perch?

FaeryBee and YuukiJaeha have given great advice. Please be sure to update us on your budgie's condition soon, and I hope you can get him to the vet, as well.

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