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So I went to my boyfriends house last night and stayed there. When I came back home this morning I noticed my budgie Poncho had some of his wing feathers missing, his tail was missing and there was some blood drops at the bottom of the cage. He was no longer bleeding. He can still fly but not as well. I wasn't trying to get him to fly but he flew out of the cage as I was cleaning it with his buddy Pinto. If I had to guess I would say he had a night fright and hurt himself. He is 5 years old and I only know of 3 night frights my budgies had in the 4 1/2 years I have had my budgies. In the night they flew in the cage wildly but I heard them and turned on the lights before they hurt theirselves. This time I was not home
I decided to separate my budgies in different cages until Poncho gets better.
He was stretching and twitching his wing a lot , til this evening he finally stopped. I am unsure if I should take him to the vet right away or wait to see if hes feeling better in a few days.
I wanted to soak some millet in this mixture i read about on these forums, and am wondering if I can store this mixture after using in the fridge for a few days or not. I was also wondering how long am i supposed to leave the millet in the mixture.
Here is the recipe I found:
If you don’t have either Guardian Angel or Pedialyte on hand, make your own following the recipe below:
½ cup hot water
3 ½ cups water
2 Tablespoons honey (or sugar if you have no honey)
½ teaspoon salt
Optional: 2 Tablespoons Orange or Apple Juice
I'm sorry your little one was injured! If it is unlikely that his Pinto hurt him, then it really does sound like he had a night fright by the injuries described. You did well in putting him in a separate cage, and soaking some millet in that recipe to give to him for a day or so will help him stay stable with regards to blood loss, etc. You can just put the millet in the solution for a few minutes and then give it to him as you would normal millet, but if he doesn't like "wet millet" (some budgies don't!) then you can actually replace his water with it for a day to achieve the same effect.
Is he alert and behaving normally after the injury now? Does he seem to be in any way lethargic or unresponsive?
Also, how bad was the bleeding?
If he is alert, has a normal appetite and droppings, and his injuries are minimal, I believe you can wait a little bit, keeping him in the separate cage still and continue monitoring him closely before taking him in.
If tomorrow he's still wobbly or it seems his injuries have reopened or gotten worse, then a vet visit would be best to ensure that he's just fine
Meanwhile, it's a good idea to put a night light in the room where the budgies are so that if they do have another night fright, the room won't be pitch black so they may feel less afraid.
Let us know how your little one is doing soon!
and Princess Mallorn!
Thank you to Deb for her wonderful Faery magic
He appears better this morning, he went for a drink of water, and instead of climbing up the cage he flew to get back to his perch. He is eatting the Millet now.
Is it okay to store the recipe in the fridge or no? If so how long would it last?
How much should I add to his bowl of water?
Poncho seems well rested since hes eating before Pinto this morning. Pinto is just calling out to him all the time lol. Their cages are next to each other so they know their buddy is still there.
The blood was small droplets on the bottom of the cage on the sides of the plastic , I really think he had a night fright because when the budgies do wrestle I never see them fight at the bottom of the cage, where the injury must have taken place due to the blood splatter.
The blood may have been due to him damaging some blood feathers during his night terrors. He should grow those back with no problem. Just make sure he's on a good diet. I think you did well in separating them and am glad Poncho is doing better!
As for the mix, I don't see any issues in storing it though since it does call for hot water it does seem that it may be preferred to have it warm for the budgie.
Honey is a natural preservative and actually doesn't go bad. Water can keep for a few days fine.
I'm glad that he's doing better today, in that case I don't think you should have to take him to the vet right now.
The reason the recipe calls for warm water is to properly dissolve the sugar, but it can be stored in the fridge for a few days (no more because the sweet water can get mold) and served at room temperature.
You can actually give him that recipe instead of water for a few hours and then switch it out later in the day
By the way, when Pinto and Poncho "wrestle", it's playful and not aggressive, right?
If Poncho is doing just fine by tomorrow, too, and is acting totally normal, you can put them back together. Best wishes and let us know how he progresses!
and Princess Mallorn!
Thank you to Deb for her wonderful Faery magic
Well he is acting normal except for he has one of his wings stretched a little away from his body, and he is vibrating the cage somehow by moving it, at times. Other times he is preening it or its resting on his body like normal . It's odd. They are not tame enough to inspect with the hands, they will only step on on my finger , I think because they are so bonded to each other.
Here is what poncho is doing with his wing its odd.
Also I think my other budgy, Pinto , was hurt a little also because hes not flying as much as before.
When they wrestle its not usually aggressive. They have a beak duel then one flies away. I've had them for a little over 5 years and I only caught them fighting 2 or 3 times. When they do one flies away and it doesn't escalate any further. I also then separate them for a day and they seem fine afterwards.
They could have been fighting but I really don't know as I left in the daytime =( Also I highly doubt if they were fighting that Pinto would win, mainly because Poncho is the bigger budgy and when pinto annoys him poncho will dominate and make Pinto move away. Poncho is usually very calm , and Pinto is the lively one that is always up to something. (Giving poncho food, playing more, chirping louder, Tearing things apart in the cage, knocking things over if possible). Poncho on the other hand is really laid back unless it comes to food and he will push pinto away to get the food (Not aggressive , and pinto moves fast because he knows poncho is stronger)
I always have 2 pieces of food at the top of the cage so they don't have to fight. (Lettuce or millet or brocolli or carrots ) then theres 3 cups(containers) of food at the bottom of the cage so theres no need to fight down there. and 3 water sources. (2 for drinking and 1 for bathing).
Pinto is going crazy now wanting to be with Poncho. Its kinda funny he slides down the side of the cage to see Poncho. But Poncho is like ah whatever, hes laid back and I want him to rest so I will keep them apart until Poncho looks better.
Last edited by frozengirl; 10-05-2016 at 04:00 PM.
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ah I will try to see the vet then (I think the avian vet only comes to town once a week) ! I hope hes not in any pain =( He doesn't shake his wing all the time just sometimes. Is there anything you can give budgies if they are in pain?
He can still fly even with the poor state his wing is in. WHile i was cleaning his cage, he flew out to get closer to pinto for awhile. I guess he was finally missing his buddy.
I didnt expect him to fly out and honestly didn't want him too because I want him to rest and heal , but he surprised me lol.
Brought him to the vet, it cost $100 for his appointment + medicine, they gave him some NSAID (Meloxicam 1.5 mg twice a day) for birds, it has to be laced in food (veges not seeds). I dont think he took much of it, it seems like hes not eating his veges at all now that he isn't in the same cage with pinto no more. He used to only eat veges when pinto was eating them. Silly bird.
The vet said to keep them apart for 2 weeks and give him no flight time, limited exercise. I moved him to the small cage so he cannot fly to his food or to the perch. He doesn't mind it though, he seems in really good spirits today. Wing isn't shaking no more he sometimes moves it away from his body i guess its still a bit uncomfortable but i think hes not in as much pain now, and he is chirping up a storm today
The vet said because he can fly he never broke his wing.
Thanks for all the advice, I'm glad hes doing so much better !
Last edited by frozengirl; 10-12-2016 at 10:53 PM.