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Old 03-21-2017, 02:36 PM
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Hi there I hope you can help?
Sadly today we lost Bluey to a long battle with cancer. Betty (boy/cock) has been left behind and he seems stressed out. I was giving him lots of attention and he was feeding more than normal throughout the day. Maybe because Bluey used to hog the feed I thought?

But just now Betty has been sick. Throwing head side to side and seeds flying out? Can budgies do this because of stress or trauma?

I've been researching what to do to keep Betty happy but he is upset his partner is gone.

Any ideas? Aaron

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Hi Aaron,
I'm sorry you lost Bluey and that Betty is distressed over this.

As the two were bonded to one another, Betty will find this time very stressful.
How long have they been together for?

Obviously it's not good that Betty was sick. I'm not certain if this is something budgies do through stress but someone more knowledgeable will be able to advise you on that.

Is Betty tame at all? Will he step up or does he spend any time with you? If he is tame then continue to spend lots of time with him. If he's never been very tame, he might find it more stressful if you are too attentive. Try to keep some music or the TV on, so it's not quiet all the time.

If he's eating a lot of seed, I would limit the amount he is getting. Budgies only need about 1 1/2 teaspoons of seed per day, so I would fed him a small amount of seed a couple of times a day to make sure he isn't being greedy. Does he have fresh vegetables in his diet?
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I'm very sorry for your loss, you have my deepest sympathies over Bluey's passing.
From your description, it really seems that Betty is vomiting.
Besides problems with related to digestion/crop issues, I doubt he would have such adverse reaction strictly from mourning and I would say that something else has triggered the bout of vomiting. Betty hardly had the time to realize he no longer has Bluey since this all happened today.
The non-stop eating and stuffing himself so fast can certainly cause a digestive upset.

Did you only happen to notice this change in Betty today? Has he been eating and drinking well before today? How were his activity/energy levels?
Have his poops been normal for the past few days until now?

For now what you can do is to keep Betty extra warm by covering the cage on 3 sides. If need be, you can also place a heating pad or a hot water bottle underneath cage's bottom.
In order to hopefully give Betty a little boost, you can add electrolytes into his drinking water and try to offer it to him. If you have a pipette, you can give it directly to the beak. https://talkbudgies.com/your-budgies-...te-recipe.html

Vomiting spells can take a lot out of a budgie depending on the severity of the bout. If Betty isn't coping well, is overall lacking in energy and if he vomits again, then it would be best to have him seen by an avian specialist right away.

I'm wishing Betty all the best.
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Hi Aaron,
I'm sorry you lost Bluey and that Betty is distressed over this.

As the two were bonded to one another, Betty will find this time very stressful.
How long have they been together for?

Obviously it's not good that Betty was sick. I'm not certain if this is something budgies do through stress but someone more knowledgeable will be able to advise you on that.

Is Betty tame at all? Will he step up or does he spend any time with you? If he is tame then continue to spend lots of time with him. If he's never been very tame, he might find it more stressful if you are too attentive. Try to keep some music or the TV on, so it's not quiet all the time.

If he's eating a lot of seed, I would limit the amount he is getting. Budgies only need about 1 1/2 teaspoons of seed per day, so I would fed him a small amount of seed a couple of times a day to make sure he isn't being greedy. Does he have fresh vegetables in his diet?
Thanks for your message. I have limited his food. I do normally give a variety of food. But will reduce the seed like you say and increase the fresh vegetables n fruit. He is not that tame. He does step up and feed from me but not every time.

I've had radio on and been speaking to him and generally been around but not too intrusive.
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I'm very sorry for your loss, you have my deepest sympathies over Bluey's passing.
From your description, it really seems that Betty is vomiting.
Besides problems with related to digestion/crop issues, I doubt he would have such adverse reaction strictly from mourning and I would say that something else has triggered the bout of vomiting. Betty hardly had the time to realize he no longer has Bluey since this all happened today.
The non-stop eating and stuffing himself so fast can certainly cause a digestive upset.

Did you only happen to notice this change in Betty today? Has he been eating and drinking well before today? How were his activity/energy levels?
Have his poops been normal for the past few days until now?
He has noticed straight away. Happened this morning. I think he has been eating more today than last few days. Energy levels fine and poop also normal.

I think he has over feed. I will reduce the food down.
Also may get a new companion.
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I would hold off on a new companion for the time being.

While Betty is undoubtedly missing Bluey, he still needs time to grieve. You need to allow this to happen before considering a new friend. You should look at the very least a month before considering it, in my opinion.
It's also best to make sure the vomiting doesn't happen any more and that Betty is in good health.
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Aaron,

I'm so sorry for your loss You've been given wonderful advice so far to help Betty through his grief.

It's important to allow him to grieve in his own way and not try to get him a new companion now, especially since he's feeling under the weather.

I agree with Therm that you should wait at least a month, and if after that he still seems withdrawn or depressed despite your best efforts to bond with him, then you should consider getting him another little male buddy.

Please keep us posted on how things go!
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Aaron,

I'm very sorry for your loss of little Bluey.
The advice you've received is excellent.

If Betty's illness continues tomorrow, then it would be best to have him seen by an Avian Vet to be properly diagnosed and receive an appropriate treatment plan.

Avian Vets have special training to determine the cause of symptoms resulting from illness or trauma.
This is important as "regular" vets will often overlook symptoms that are quickly obvious to an Avian Vet.
When you rely on anyone who has not had training in Avian diagnosis and care, you may be delaying effective treatment.
This can prolong suffering that may be avoidable.
The bird will often require a more intense, prolonged treatment with a poorer chance of full recovery than it would have if you seek prompt professional diagnosis and treatment at the first sign of illness.

Distinction between an Avian Vet and a Vet that "Will See Birds"

Having your new budgie examined by an Avian Vet allows you to develop a good relationship with the vet in case your bird needs care for an injury or illness in the future. Additionally, it is always helpful for the vet to have a baseline for your bird to refer to should it need future treatment.

Waiting a minimum of a month before determining whether or not to get a new friend for Betty is important. He needs to have time to grieve and come to terms with the fact that Bluey is gone.

If, at that time, you do choose to get another budgie, please be sure you follow quarantine procedures.
Why Quarantine?

After quarantine, the two budgies should then be introduced slowly and in neutral territory.
https://talkbudgies.com/new-budgie-ar...o-budgies.html

I'm moving your thread over to the follow-up section of the forum. Please be sure to update us regarding Betty's condition in this thread.

Best wishes!
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I will defo hold off getting a new companion.

This morning Betty is looking much better. Calling. Hoping around and feeding and drinking water.

I've lowered the amount of food he has in the cage and will top up later on.

But fingers crossed looking better.

I'll keep you posted. But so glad this forum exists.

Cheers
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I'm glad to hear Betty is showing improvement today.
Be sure to give him lots of attention and TLC to help him through this difficult period.

We'll be looking forward to your updates.
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