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Follow-up Center Threads made in the Emergency Room forum will be moved here by staff as a way to follow-up with members after their budgie emergency. This keeps the E.R. for only the most current emergencies.

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Old 09-14-2017, 07:24 AM
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Unhappy Please help me! Very sick bird.

Hi! I'd really appreciate some help as I'm feeling really worried.

My female budgie (Zuzu) is very sick, she bobs her tail and had a big chunk of poop stuck to her vent - which has now fallen off. It seems that her poop is the normal shape and colour, but on the newspaper there is a patch of wetness around the poo..? The area around her vent is red and there is some yellow staining around the feathers. She is also puffed up and mostly grooming herself. She is *very* untame so I am unable to have a look at her close up, or clean her vent (so this makes me nervous as to what my vet will do since he can't touch her?).
She is currently with another budgie (Kiwi), and we didn't have another cage to put him into so we had to order a new one which is supposed to come today or tomorrow. I really hope he didn't get infected in the time they spent together.


We bought a 6 week old baby budgie on Monday, she is currently in my bedroom upstairs to avoid her being infected too, but I'm still worried that she may get sick too since she's so young.


On top of all that, there are *no* avian vets in my area. The closest one is a good 3 hours away. I contacted a local vet and they told me they would look at my budgie, but he is not a specialist in birds.
So, when I take her, what medication should I expect/advise? I heard that antibiotics are not good especially for birds as they kill the good bacteria too in the stomach and can make things worst. Any home remedies?


This is a very upsetting situation to be in as I'm worried about all three of my birdies. I really hope I don't loose any of them. I really appreciate any help!

-Emese

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Old 09-14-2017, 07:56 AM
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I'm sorry to hear that your budgie isn't well. Take a deep breath and try to remain calm. It's good that you are quarantining your new budgie.

The only advice I can give is to take her to that avian vet. 3 hours really isn't far to get proper medical care for your budgie. People on here are not trained and so cannot give you a proper diagnosis or treatment plan. If you really can't take her to an avian vet, then at least take her to your local vet or seek out a vet that regularly sees birds. They will be more helpful than we will. The vet will likely need to hold your budgie with a towel in order to do a close up/hands on examination on your bird. This is a common practice and nothing to be worried about.

Antibiotics aren't necessarily bad, but it's important that they are used appropriately. They only fight bacterial infections. So in some cases a vet will prescribe antibiotics if they are needed. You are right that antibiotics can kill good bacteria off, but this can be combated by offering probiotics or apple cider vinegar to your birds after a course of antibiotics. ACV is a natural probiotic and will promote the growth of healthy bacteria.

You can read more here.

Apple Cider Vinegar

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I'm very sorry to hear your budgie is so ill.
Taking your budgie to a regular vet is your best option at the moment. You can ask the regular vet to consult via phone, skype or email with an Avian Vet if necessary.

You don't mention how old the budgie is.
Is it possible she is egg-bound?

Please get your budgie into the vet right away and then let us know how she's doing.

Best wishes for a full and speedy recovery for your little girl.
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I'm sorry to hear that your budgie isn't well. Take a deep breath and try to remain calm. It's good that you are quarantining your new budgie.

The only advice I can give is to take her to that avian vet. 3 hours really isn't far to get proper medical care for your budgie. People on here are not trained and so cannot give you a proper diagnosis or treatment plan. If you really can't take her to an avian vet, then at least take her to your local vet or seek out a vet that regularly sees birds. They will be more helpful than we will. The vet will likely need to hold your budgie with a towel in order to do a close up/hands on examination on your bird. This is a common practice and nothing to be worried about.

Antibiotics aren't necessarily bad, but it's important that they are used appropriately. They only fight bacterial infections. So in some cases a vet will prescribe antibiotics if they are needed. You are right that antibiotics can kill good bacteria off, but this can be combated by offering probiotics or apple cider vinegar to your birds after a course of antibiotics. ACV is a natural probiotic and will promote the growth of healthy bacteria.

You can read more here.

Apple Cider Vinegar
The new cage arrived so she is now separate. She seems a little better today, so I will wait a couple days and see if she improves. Taking her to the vet would be a very stressful ordeal for her so I'd like to avoid it if possible.. I am keeping an eye on her and if she stops eating or drinking then it will be an immediate trip to the vet.

Thank you for the information on ACV, if she is prescribed antibiotics then I definitely give her some.
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Old 09-14-2017, 03:42 PM
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I'm very sorry to hear your budgie is so ill.
Taking your budgie to a regular vet is your best option at the moment. You can ask the regular vet to consult via phone, skype or email with an Avian Vet if necessary.

You don't mention how old the budgie is.
Is it possible she is egg-bound?

Please get your budgie into the vet right away and then let us know how she's doing.

Best wishes for a full and speedy recovery for your little girl.
Thank you for your reply She is around 2 years old, she's laid eggs before but none were fertile unfortunately. I didn't know about egg binding before! I will read about it.

She does seem to be slightly better, so I will wait a few days with the vet visit as I think it would unsettle her alot. She is still eating and drinking, her poop is returning to it's normal state and she is very chatty and happy.
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Since she's laid eggs before, you'll want to read the information in this link:

https://talkbudgies.com/articles-budg...revention.html

I'm glad to hear she seems to be doing better.
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The new cage arrived so she is now separate. She seems a little better today, so I will wait a couple days and see if she improves. Taking her to the vet would be a very stressful ordeal for her so I'd like to avoid it if possible.. I am keeping an eye on her and if she stops eating or drinking then it will be an immediate trip to the vet.

Thank you for the information on ACV, if she is prescribed antibiotics then I definitely give her some.
Good to hear she is doing better. You can actually give ACV in the water 2-3 times a week even when antibiotics haven't been prescribed. It has many beneficial properties in it.
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