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Old 04-02-2018, 09:43 AM
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Hi all,

My Kiwi is in serious distress with breathing, has clicking noises, screeching/scratchy noises is the best I can describe the other sound which he makes, especially when moving and trying to preen himself, especially when trying to reach his lower back like they do to preen, that makes him very breathless to the point where he has to give up trying to preen that area.

He has been to see an avian vet 2 times already, they took an x-ray and while the right lung looked fine, the left had what I would call 2 or 3 white cloudy areas on the x-ray, I can't remember what the vet said about the.

Apparently a blood test on a budgie is too risky, they have to take more blood than a bird that small can really handle loosing so instead they did the feather test, the feather pulp can tell a vet a lot about what is going on, that test was clear and showed nothing, they also tested for Psittacosis and that came back negative but you can have false negatives they said so I had him tested again for it, still waiting on those results.

On the first visit Baytril was described, I turned down the option of an x-ray because I'd only ever had one other bird put through an x-ray and she never woke up, wish I'd had the x-ray done on the first visit but my fears stopped me but as Kiwi wasn't improving on the second visit I had no choice but to have the x-ray performed. On the second visit upon seeing the x-ray the vet prescribed another antibiotic and an anti-fungal. The vet says that with such a small bird as a budgie they haven't got the option of putting a camera down to see exactly what's going on and to identify what the white cloudy spots were on his left lung.

No medication has made any difference at all, I can only think of one horrible reason why medications aren't having any effect, a tumour

In desperation and upon reading online about how a nebulizer with f10 can help with respiratory issues I went out and brought one, I already had the f10sc as I use that to clean everything so I've been nebulizing twice a day since Saturday at the recommended dilution rate. I also have another medication from the vets that I rushed the 120 mile round trip to pick up from them yesterday which the vet says will help open up his airway to help him breath.

Kiwi still has a major tail pumping motion, I can say the medication from the vets to use in the nebulizer as well to help open up his airway has made a small difference but not much. H's also started sneezing a lot and rubbing his head and beak against whatever is neayby, he sneezes everytime he rubs his head and also sneezes 98% of the time after trying to preen himself. The sneezes are also nothing like a normal sneeze, it's a very loud squeal type sneeze, once in a blue moon he will have a normal sneeze but the majority are the loud squeal sound. He never has any discharge from around the nasal area, no mucous stains or anything like that, that area is clear.

Forgot to say he's also being treated for airsac mites, I asked to treat him for that even though the air sacs looked fine according to the x-ray but in my desperation I'm trying everything I can think of but I'm not seeing any major improvement,

Kiwi is still trying to be his usual playful, chirpy self but he gets really breathless a lot, especially when preening as mentioned above, when trying to reach around to preen the lower back or to reach around to clear the bum area as birds do, he tries to but stops due to becoming very breathless. The sneezing has also got worse too

I'm continuing to nebulize him, now 3 times a day as the medication from the vets to open up his airway says to nebulize 3 times, I'm also using the F10 as well, he's still eating but certainly not as much as he usually does but I think I'm running out of options to try, especially if it is something horrible like a tumour

also forgot to mention that his droppings are absolutely normal, that is confusing me considering the respiratoy issues he is experiencing.


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Old 04-02-2018, 10:54 AM
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Paul,

I'm very sorry to hear that little Kiwi is so very ill.
It sounds as though you and your Avian Vet are doing everything possible to pull him through.

I will be sending many prayers and healing energy for Kiwi and hope the medications the vet have prescribed for him will help him recover.
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Thank you for your kind words, sat here in tears because I don't want to lose him, he's only been with me a few short years. It seems any kind of head movement causes shortness of a breath now so even eating he's struggling with.
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As difficult as it is for you, it may be time to start considering what is best for little Kiwi.

If the Avian Vet doesn't hold out sufficient hope that he will improve on the current medication regimen, then Kiwi's quality of life has deteriorated to the point where he is suffering.

I've had to have several of my beloved pets helped along on their journey to the Rainbow Bridge over the years.

It is never an easy decision and will always be heart-breaking if/when that time comes.
However, I also believe it is the greatest act of selfless love we can offer our pets when their pain and suffering outweighs the quality of their lives.

If you would like to talk, feel free to contact me via Private Message.

You and Kiwi are in my heart and prayers.
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I’m sorry to hear about Kiwi being ill. Has your avian vet mentioned aspergillosis? When one of my parrots had it, it looked white cloudy in the lungs. Not sure if it’s common for other conditions to produce white cloudy appearance on x-ray or not.

All the best to you and Kiwi. Please keep us posted on Kiwi’s condition and treatment!
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I'm so sorry to hear about your Kiwi being ill, Paul.
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I'm very sorry that Kiwi is so ill... I wish you and Kiwi the best
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Kiwi is at the avian vet hospital now on oxygen, all last night I was in tears thinking about having him put to sleep but he is still fighting, he still wanted to come out of his cage and interact with me and play with his toys as usual, if he's still fighting then why aren't I.

So I asked for them to keep him in their hospital for a few days, they rushed him off to place him on oxygen, they want to stabilise his breathing and then try medications by injection. If those medications I've been giving him didn't work because he wasn't swallowing it, or most of it then maybe there's hope.

I'm being realistic though, I have everything crossed but I did say that if there's no sign of improvement after a few days or if they think he is really struggling and the best thing for him would be to put him to sleep then they're call and I'll be rushing off to be there as I said I'd like to be there with him if it comes to that. Takes just over an hour to get there though so I just hope I make it in time if he does start to deteriorate.

And if the worst happens and Kiwi loses the fight & suddenly passes away then I asked them to call me no matter what time of the day or night as I'd rather know straight away.

Everyone send Kiwi all your prayers please, he really needs them.
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I'm sending many prayers, much love and lots so healing energy to Kiwi.
Prayers for strength for you during this very difficult time.
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The house phone rang just after 10pm, so my heart sank, it was the vet but the news is positive at the moment, Kiwi has improved a lot, he certainly hasn't deteriorated further and he's eating and getting his medicine. The vet did say he's still not out of the woods by any means but maybe he's turned a corner and will continue to improve, I'm praying that's the case.
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