My Poor Wee Joey: Large swelling - Talk Budgies Forums


User Menu
Forum Home
Budgie Gallery
Budgie FAQ
Site Guidelines
How-To-Guide
Members List
Today's Posts
Log In
Register now!
Search



Advanced Search
Popular Forums
Announcements

Budgie Articles

Budgie Talk

Budgie Pictures

Budgie Videos

Budgie Behavior

Determining Gender

Your Budgie's Health

Taming and Bonding

Budgie Breeding

In Memory

Other Birds

Contests

Chit Chat

Site Information

Talk Network
Talk Budgies
Talk Cockatiels
Talk Parrotlets
Talk Parrots
Sponsored Ads

Go Back   Talk Budgies Forums > Budgie Talk > Your Budgie's Health > Emergency Room > Follow-up Center


Follow-up Center Threads made in the Emergency Room forum will be moved here by staff as a way to follow-up with members after their budgie emergency. This keeps the E.R. for only the most current emergencies.

Closed Thread
 
Short URL LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 07-19-2018, 04:45 PM
colinkbell (Colin)
Egg
 
Profile:colinkbell is offline
Number of Budgies: 6
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Owner
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 19
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 10
Rep Power: 0
colinkbell is on a distinguished road
Default My Poor Wee Joey: Large swelling

Hi all. My budgie has been developing a large growth in his left hand side of his face/throat. He has no symptoms except for sleeping alot. I have taken him to 3 vets to no avail. First said he needs an xray, but is highly dangerous due his age - approx 6yrs old. Second couldnt care less. Third thought possibly an abcess, so we tried antibiotics which didnt help. It has been growing for about 8 months now. He lets me touch it. But i dont know what to do now. Here are some pics:


Thanks for ANY advice. Thanks for reading, Colin.


Last edited by FaeryBee; 07-20-2018 at 09:57 PM.
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old 07-19-2018, 04:54 PM
Therm's Avatar
Member of the Month January 2016

State:
 
Profile:Therm is offline
Gender:
Number of Budgies: 17
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Lover
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Lincs
Posts: 4,995
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 4382
Rep Power: 14
Therm has a reputation beyond reputeTherm has a reputation beyond reputeTherm has a reputation beyond reputeTherm has a reputation beyond reputeTherm has a reputation beyond reputeTherm has a reputation beyond reputeTherm has a reputation beyond reputeTherm has a reputation beyond reputeTherm has a reputation beyond reputeTherm has a reputation beyond reputeTherm has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Did you see an avian vet at all?
A regular vet will not be trained in treating birds and an avian vet will have better training and a whole lot more than anyone on here.

The third vet was trying. Why not return to them and say nothing's improved? How long ago was your last vet visit? It seems this growth has been going on a long time but only three visits to the vet over that time isn't that many and as I said, no one here will be able to properly diagnose your budgie and even if we could, we couldn't treat him.

You really need to seek out an avian vet in your area. If there is no one at all, see the third vet you visited again and ask what else they can try as the antibiotics did not help.
__________________
  #3  
Old 07-19-2018, 05:31 PM
colinkbell (Colin)
Egg
 
Profile:colinkbell is offline
Number of Budgies: 6
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Owner
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 19
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 10
Rep Power: 0
colinkbell is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Therm View Post
Did you see an avian vet at all?
A regular vet will not be trained in treating birds and an avian vet will have better training and a whole lot more than anyone on here.

The third vet was trying. Why not return to them and say nothing's improved? How long ago was your last vet visit? It seems this growth has been going on a long time but only three visits to the vet over that time isn't that many and as I said, no one here will be able to properly diagnose your budgie and even if we could, we couldn't treat him.

You really need to seek out an avian vet in your area. If there is no one at all, see the third vet you visited again and ask what else they can try as the antibiotics did not help.
Thanks Therm. I cant find an Avian vet unfortunately. I live in Northern Ireland. The third vet said the abscess was just a guess, she would need to xray, but the risk is high that the gas would kill him, about 6 in 10 chance. She guessed an abscess as she said the swelling in underneath his skin. Im convinced that the right person would hopefully spot visually what this swelling is. Thanks for your kind advice Therm. Sincerely, Colin.
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old 07-19-2018, 08:46 PM
Cody's Avatar
Moderator


State:
 
Profile:Cody is offline
Gender:
Number of Budgies: 8
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Lover
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Chicago suburbs
Posts: 2,344
Gallery: 1
Karma:
Points: 2535
Rep Power: 11
Cody has a reputation beyond reputeCody has a reputation beyond reputeCody has a reputation beyond reputeCody has a reputation beyond reputeCody has a reputation beyond reputeCody has a reputation beyond reputeCody has a reputation beyond reputeCody has a reputation beyond reputeCody has a reputation beyond reputeCody has a reputation beyond reputeCody has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Is the growth hard to the touch or is it more fluid like and soft? That may give somewhat of a clue as to whether it is a tumor or something else. You may want to ask the vet that gave you the antibiotics if they could consult with an avian vet to get further direction on what to do.
__________________
  #5  
Old 07-20-2018, 02:59 AM
colinkbell (Colin)
Egg
 
Profile:colinkbell is offline
Number of Budgies: 6
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Owner
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 19
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 10
Rep Power: 0
colinkbell is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cody View Post
Is the growth hard to the touch or is it more fluid like and soft? That may give somewhat of a clue as to whether it is a tumor or something else. You may want to ask the vet that gave you the antibiotics if they could consult with an avian vet to get further direction on what to do.
Thanks Cody. It is quite hard and solid to the touch.
  #6  
Old 07-20-2018, 08:21 AM
Cody's Avatar
Moderator


State:
 
Profile:Cody is offline
Gender:
Number of Budgies: 8
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Lover
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Chicago suburbs
Posts: 2,344
Gallery: 1
Karma:
Points: 2535
Rep Power: 11
Cody has a reputation beyond reputeCody has a reputation beyond reputeCody has a reputation beyond reputeCody has a reputation beyond reputeCody has a reputation beyond reputeCody has a reputation beyond reputeCody has a reputation beyond reputeCody has a reputation beyond reputeCody has a reputation beyond reputeCody has a reputation beyond reputeCody has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I was thinking that if it was soft that there may be fluid inside that could be removed and reduce the swelling but if it is hard that would not be the case, I think that it would need to be surgically removed if possible and that would take an experienced avian vet. I would talk with the vet that you last saw and see if they can refer you elsewhere. Are there any zoos in your area that have birds, if so, you may want to contact them and see if they know of a vet that could help you.
__________________
  #7  
Old 07-20-2018, 10:02 PM
FaeryBee's Avatar
FaeryBee (Deborah)
Administrator



State:
 
Profile:FaeryBee is offline
Gender:
Number of Budgies: 7
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Enthusiast
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 53,669
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 2575
Rep Power: 35
FaeryBee has a reputation beyond reputeFaeryBee has a reputation beyond reputeFaeryBee has a reputation beyond reputeFaeryBee has a reputation beyond reputeFaeryBee has a reputation beyond reputeFaeryBee has a reputation beyond reputeFaeryBee has a reputation beyond reputeFaeryBee has a reputation beyond reputeFaeryBee has a reputation beyond reputeFaeryBee has a reputation beyond reputeFaeryBee has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I'd suggest contacting Dr. Ross Perry to see if he may have any specific experience with matters such as this or can recommend someone for you to contact.

Dr. Ross Perry
US/Canada exit code: 011
Australia country code: 61
The 0 on cell phones/mobile phones is dropped on international calls.

Dr. Ross Perry
Mobile 0419 693279
Calling from US/Canada: 011 61 419 693 279

Home (612) 9401 4586
Calling from US/Canada: 011 61 2 9401 4586

Work (612) 99825831
Calling from US/Canada: 011 61 2 9982 [email protected]
[email protected]
Skype and iChat: DoctorRossPerry
Aspiring to love all, serve all, help ever, hurt never.
https://www.drrossperry.com.au/

Appointments, consultations, phone, skype, iChat, e-mail - Budgie Health

Additionally, I would recommend you start giving Joey knotgrass on the off chance it may help.
You can buy it dried and in bulk through Amazon. Give it to him as a dried "salad", make it into a tea, sprinkle it on his food, etc. It is a natural herb and you cannot overdose with it.


https://www.talkbudgies.com/articles...lp-tumors.html

Sending much love and many blessings for wee Joey.
__________________

  #8  
Old 07-21-2018, 12:15 AM
RavensGryf's Avatar
RavensGryf (Julie)
Super Moderator/Member of the Month October 2015

State:
 
Profile:RavensGryf is offline
Gender:
Number of Budgies: 2
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Owner
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Southern California
Posts: 6,698
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 4942
Rep Power: 16
RavensGryf has a reputation beyond reputeRavensGryf has a reputation beyond reputeRavensGryf has a reputation beyond reputeRavensGryf has a reputation beyond reputeRavensGryf has a reputation beyond reputeRavensGryf has a reputation beyond reputeRavensGryf has a reputation beyond reputeRavensGryf has a reputation beyond reputeRavensGryf has a reputation beyond reputeRavensGryf has a reputation beyond reputeRavensGryf has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I’m sorry that you’re dealing with this. Deborah has given you good advice above. Please let us know if you’ve had any luck contacting Dr. Ross Perry. I wish you good luck with your little guy.
__________________
  #9  
Old 08-07-2018, 04:58 PM
colinkbell (Colin)
Egg
 
Profile:colinkbell is offline
Number of Budgies: 6
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Owner
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 19
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 10
Rep Power: 0
colinkbell is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FaeryBee View Post
I'd suggest contacting Dr. Ross Perry to see if he may have any specific experience with matters such as this or can recommend someone for you to contact.

Dr. Ross Perry
US/Canada exit code: 011
Australia country code: 61
The 0 on cell phones/mobile phones is dropped on international calls.

Dr. Ross Perry
Mobile 0419 693279
Calling from US/Canada: 011 61 419 693 279

Home (612) 9401 4586
Calling from US/Canada: 011 61 2 9401 4586

Work (612) 99825831
Calling from US/Canada: 011 61 2 9982 [email protected]
[email protected]
Skype and iChat: DoctorRossPerry
Aspiring to love all, serve all, help ever, hurt never.
https://www.drrossperry.com.au/

Appointments, consultations, phone, skype, iChat, e-mail - Budgie Health

Additionally, I would recommend you start giving Joey knotgrass on the off chance it may help.
You can buy it dried and in bulk through Amazon. Give it to him as a dried "salad", make it into a tea, sprinkle it on his food, etc. It is a natural herb and you cannot overdose with it.


https://www.talkbudgies.com/articles...lp-tumors.html

Sending much love and many blessings for wee Joey.
Hi Deborah - im very sorry i didnt get the notification, and just seen this now. Thank you so much for all that, how very kind of you. Im about to update down below here in the thread. Sincere thanks, Colin

Last edited by colinkbell; 08-07-2018 at 04:59 PM. Reason: spelling
Closed Thread



Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:59 PM.



Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright © 2000- 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright © 2006 - , 2403 Networks LLC. All rights reserved.