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Old 02-10-2019, 03:48 PM
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Hi all,

Cutie has been to the vets this Monday on 4th feb since she was sleeping and dropping were sticking to her vent (actually her feathers) more than usual she has also suffered from mega bacteria in the past so she was already on sodium benzoate before the vet visit.

The vet noticed her tail bobbing and gave us synulox palatable drops because he suspected respiratory infection. The vet also gave BSP drops but since she was on sodium benzoate he said wait till it is over and then give her BSP drops because it also has to be given in water.

However cutie is still fluffed up and I want to know why - today is her last day for synulox drops and yet she is fluffed up. Could it be megabacteria however she does not have pellets in her poop. Could it be some other secondary infection if so would'nt it also be targeted with synulox drops?

p.s. Cutie is also moulting since 12th jan however she never slept so much during moulting before could it just be a mixture of everything since we went on holiday and left her to a lady to take care of her causing her stress (she vomitted the very next day we got her I know megabac could be stress induced so started sodium benzoate.)

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Sorry Cutie is not well. Moulting can surely take a toll on the immune system and make the bird more lethargic and susceptible to illness. Did the vet do any tests on the droppings? If not I would request that a test is done to determine if there are any of the mega bacteria organisms in the droppings as well as checking for a secondary infection. You do not always see whole seeds in the droppings of a bird with mega bacteria. If there is an active infection of the mega bacteria an antibiotic will not help as it is really not a bacteria but a yeast and the sodium benzoate may not be enough to knock out the infection. If there is a secondary infection it could also be that a different antibiotic needs to be used. I would take Cutie back to the vet for further analysis.
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I agree with Cody - she has provided excellent advice.
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Exclamation blob of poop stuck to inflammed cuties's vent

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we had been on holiday and had to keep cutie with a friend when i got her today a lot of poop were stuck to the vent. it was very large and combined and in a blob and it was black but when i am trying to clean it it appears as dark green i tried searching for vets but my avian vet has gone on a two week holiday and there is no appointment with other avian vet nearby till tomorrow afternoon however i am worried as to what I should do to cutie in the meanwhile also i had given the friend oyster shells and when i got cutie back today there was half of the oyster bottle in her bowl and she also vomited today and there were vomit in her cage as well. As soon as i gave her something to eat like seeds just so that she eats something she vomited and she has suffered from mega bacteria previously . Her vet is inflamed and not opening and she making begging noises but no poop is coming.
do you think feeding her spinach would help???

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You need to see the vet asap, according to your previous posts your bird has been ill for some time. It is possible that the blob you are referring to is blocking her ability to pass anything more. Can you clean off the vent area with water and a soft towel? Is she on any medication currently?
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hi,

i had taken her to vet last time but she has never had this sort of problem in the past the vet only gave us a BSP vitamins drops and synulox medicine to treat her respiratory. I have tried calling everywhere there is no avian vet around until tomorrow.Cutie pooped twice though they were extremely wet and fluid and only hint of green,black and white was seen.I cleaned her vent and she pooped in a few hours instead of immediately also I tried feeling around her vent I can feel spikes sort of thing dotted around her vent and is inflamed also her usually pink vent is blueish right now. She is on the bsp drops and she had finished her 6 days synulox drops.

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I am sorry about your bird's condition but this is something that cannot be solved without the intervention of a vet. Does your bird currently have megabacteria, if so that is probably contributing to her problems.
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Cutie finally did some poops over the day starting from the green watery one.These are the type of poops cutie did gradually over the day. They are quite black I dont know what it could mean (could it mean internal bleeding especially the last one) and atm she is putting her head behind and sleeping.
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The first dropping, as you are aware does not look good, as for the other two, they are dark but only you can say just how much darker than normal they are. In a bird that has bleeding in the upper GI tract you can see black tar like droppings but I don't know if that is the case here. It is critical that the bird gets examined by an avian vet so please take her to the vet that can see you tomorrow afternoon. Perhaps if you call them and explain the issue they can squeeze you in sooner.
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Hi,
I took Cutie to vet yesterday, and showed Cutie's poops to her, and the vet said that the poop maybe has blood in it, and she said that we should a poop test, to find out what is causing this illness. She said it could be parasites or tumour or there is something wrong with the liver but not very sure until we do the poop test.

Therefore, the vet asked us to collect her poops for 3 days, and then they will culture it. I am not sure now cause the vet said that the results will maybe take a week to arrive, and so tomorrow I will take the final sample for the third day and submit the poops. the vet said Cutie may deteriorate within that time as birds deteriorate very fast. I asked her what I can do in the meantime but she just asked me to continue with Cutie's vitamin A drops in water that the vet that I went to last time prescribed. I am also not very sure whether I should trust this vet as she suggested me to remove her natural branch perches and replace with sanded perches. I told her that I thought sand perches caused bumblefoot but she told me no it doesn't instead those natural branches may cause bumblefoot, as mites can grow on them.

She also asked me to give Cutie grit, but I told her that I thought that grit is not necessary for budgies, but the vet said no it is very good for their digestion, I am not very sure about this vet now, but I have still agreed to do the poop test, cause Cutie needs help fast, btw this vet is an exotics vet. I also told the vet how Cutie stays on the window during the day and licks the rubber on the window even after I try pulling her away from it, Cutie goes and sticks pellets to the rubber on the window and keeps licks it whilst sticking pellets, the vet said that is very toxic and also something that may have been causing her to become ill over the time, and it is only now that Cutie is showing signs.

So I wanted to ask what I can give to Cutie in the meantime, as I give her vitamin drops in the water so I cant give her acv or sodium benzoate. I have heard about electrolytes and probiotics but I have never used them before and I dont know which ones to use in my case so please tell me whether anything like that would help Cutie in the meantime, or any other things that I should be doing? I am very scared I don't want anything to happen to my baby Cutie she is a pure miracle the way she came in my life, so please help me. I am also thinking of buying harrisons baby food and try feeding her if such an extreme situation occurs where she becomes weak, but I don't know how I should do that and also how can I check whether her crop is full or not? Cutie is 4years of age btw, she is not a budgie baby but she is my baby.

I have also attached the Cutie's poop that the vet thought may have blood in it, but I have also told the vet that yesterday Cutie had carrot juice, but still if someone can confirm if that looks like blood or is it just due to carrot juice?
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