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Hi All, we've been looking for a friend to give our budgie company and we finally found an adorable little budgie at RSPCA. She is a stray that was brought to them end of December. Apparently one of their staff is quite experienced with birds and she inspected the budgie and thought that everything is ok but she hasn't seen a vet. She also hasn't been dewormed or anything like that.

1. I thought I knew everything about quarantine but now I'm freaking out a bit. So we are keeping the new budgie (MF) in a room on the ground floor and the other budgie (P) in another room on the first floor. I wash my hands every time after going near the new budgie but I read somewhere that you should also change your clothes, have a shower, etc. Is that true?? Yesterday I changed the lining of the new budgie's cage, then washed my hands and then spent some time with my other budgie P feeding her seeds and pellets from my hand. I didn't shower or change my clothes and now I'm worried that I might have carried any parasites to P.

Is it true that you really need to change your clothes and/or shower? Do I have to be more careful considering that she's a rescue budgie and no one really knows where she's come from? She seems healthy and not itchy at all.

We are planning to take the new budgie to a vet as soon as she has settled in a bit more. She isn't hand tame so I don't want to stress her out more at the moment by trying to catch her.

2. Also, in spite of being in 2 separate rooms and on separate floors they can hear each other even through closed doors. They keep chirping to each other. Is that ok considering that they aren't going to actually meet or see each other for another 6 weeks? I'm worried that it might be a bit disturbing for them..or that they might start pining away for each other...

3. I'd like to tame the new budgie and bond with her while she's going through quarantine. Will hearing another budgie chirp in the house make the bonding process more difficult?

4. MF seems to have a deformed foot. At RSPCA they thought that she was probably born with it and that it's nothing serious. It looks as if on her left foot all her toes are pointing to the front and two of them (the two that are supposed to point backwards I suppose) are sort of curled up. She seems to be fully mobile. She can walk, climb and fly very well though she does struggle to get onto her swing and sometimes falls off after landing on it. We'll ask the vet about it but has anyone sees this? Do you think, it's serious? Is there anything that has to be done? She also seems to spend more time on the bottom of the cage (which P, our other budgie never ever does). It might because because she's still young. She still has the bars on her head so I'm guessing that she's younger than 6 months, maybe between 3-6 months. She seems healthy otherwise.

5. I looked up what mutation she might be but I've forgotten the name again. I think, it's a fairly standard one. She's blue and white. ..except that her white feathers aren't completely white but seem to have a slightly browning tint to them. Is that normal? This might be a stupid question but could it be just dirt? P is yellow and white and her white feathers are completely white. P also preens and grooms herself constantly and I haven't really seen MF do any preening yet.


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Hi!

Obviously you are doing your best to ensure everything is done correctly for the health and well-being of your two budgies which is GREAT!!

Quarantine means housing your new bird in a different cage in a different room as far away as possible from the room your current bird(s) is in for a period of 4-6 weeks.

Budgies mask symptoms when they are ill. Symptoms may not show up for over two weeks. Often you will not even realize your bird is not well. Many budgie illnesses are airborne which is why you need to quarantine your new bird in a completely different room.

Technically should one change their clothes -- yes if you want to be COMPLETELY strict about it, but most people don't. Washing your hands and taking the precautions you are usually are sufficient in the majority of cases so I wouldn't be overly concerned.

With regard to hearing one another -- don't worry about that. They'll be fine. Just think of all the great stuff they are telling each other right now. By the time they meet when quarantine is over, they'll feel like they are "old friends".

Taming and bonding with the new female should not be affected by her hearing your other budgie. Close the door of the room you are in with the new female when you spend time with her to ensure her focus remains on you.

Many budgies with deformed feet live perfectly happy lives. Your little one may have more trouble perching since her back toes on the one foot don't grip properly, but otherwise she should do just fine. Since you indicate she is still very young, she may also be going through the "awkward" stage when little budgies still have a bit of a problem with balancing.

With regard to the mutation, please post pictures as indicated in this thread: https://talkbudgies.com/mutations-gen...tion-help.html

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Congratulations on your new little rescue girl! I'm looking
forward to seeing pictures of her soon.
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Technically should one change their clothes -- yes if you want to be COMPLETELY strict about it, but most people don't. Washing your hands and taking the precautions you are usually are sufficient in the majority of cases so I wouldn't be overly concerned.
Phew, thanks, that's a relief. I'd do it if it was absolutely recommended but it would be quite impractical.

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With regard to hearing one another -- don't worry about that. They'll be fine. Just think of all the great stuff they are telling each other right now. By the time they meet when quarantine is over, they'll feel like they are "old friends".
I have wondered about what they might be telling each other. I can imagine P, who has lived with us for 5 months now giving the new budgie a long list of complaints about me...how I keep annoying her with vegetables and pellets (which I think, she's finally started eating ) and trying to make her step up, get out of her cage, etc.

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Taming and bonding with the new female should not be affected by her hearing your other budgie. Close the door of the room you are in with the new female when you spend time with her to ensure her focus remains on you.
Closing the doors doesn't seem to make any difference. You can still hear the other budgie clearly even with both doors closed, which tells a lot about the sound proofing of our house, I guess...

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Many budgies with deformed feet live perfectly happy lives. Your little one may have more trouble perching since her back toes on the one foot don't grip properly, but otherwise she should do just fine. Since you indicate she is still very young, she may also be going through the "awkward" stage when little budgies still have a bit of a problem with balancing.
Thanks, I'm glad to know that.

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With regard to the mutation, please post pictures as indicated in this thread: https://talkbudgies.com/mutations-gen...tion-help.html

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Congratulations on your new little rescue girl! I'm looking
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Pictures to come soon!! I hope it's a girl. At RSPCA they weren't sure and I too think, it's very possible that MF is actually male. Her cere is pretty uniformly pink. Sigh, I really don't want to breed them but I guess we might be able to tell in 6 weeks when I start introducing them to each other. If she's really male we'll then have to think about how to discourage them from mating. Till we know more, I'll go with my hopes and refer to her as "she".
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you might throw a smog or lab coat over wile visiting with the new bird, take it off when you leave the room.
but if the experts say it's not imperative, I think you will be fine.

Bird sounds carry quite a bid though. I can often hear the wild ones inside my house with windows closed, I am sure the birds can too!

Have fun with your new friend!
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Oh, I have 2 females and one male in the same cage.

I think one of the females was somewhat in condition once in the years I have had them, I have yet to see the first egg!

it might not be a problem at all, unlike with unspayed cats or dogs....
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Ideally quarantine is separate house with a shower and change of clothes between.

Not practical for most.

For mine i use a lab coat over trousers and socks i put over. F10sc in a spray bottle prepared. Spray down before putting lab coat etc on spray down after. Disinfect the whole cage and room. Do what needs doing. Spray down overclothes. Then spray down clothes underneath. Then my arms and face/ hair. Then wash my arms and face and use the f10 gel on arms. F10sc when diluted correctly is perfectlt safe to spray on yourself btw.

As for vets visit please get blood work done. I always test for pbfd and psittacosis regardless of where bird has come from.
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Kudos for rescuing that budgie!

We'd love to see some pictures.
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Karma to you for rescuing another little one

Hoping the advice above brings you great peace of mind and many happy days with your budgies
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Thanks so much for the replies. I don't gave a lab gown but I guess I could throw on a bath or morning robe.

Thanks also for the tip on blood work. Anything else I should ask the vet?
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Ideally quarantine is separate house with a shower and change of clothes between.

Not practical for most.

For mine i use a lab coat over trousers and socks i put over. F10sc in a spray bottle prepared. Spray down before putting lab coat etc on spray down after. Disinfect the whole cage and room. Do what needs doing. Spray down overclothes. Then spray down clothes underneath. Then my arms and face/ hair. Then wash my arms and face and use the f10 gel on arms. F10sc when diluted correctly is perfectlt safe to spray on yourself btw.

As for vets visit please get blood work done. I always test for pbfd and psittacosis regardless of where bird has come from.
Thanks but I'm not sure I understand.

Do you disinfect the cage every time after seeing the budgie? With the budgie in it? I've seen an f10 spray online I think. Is there any particular one or will any thing that says f10 do? Can I really spray the cage and room with the budgie in it? Are f10 and f10sc the same or two different sprays?

Considering that I haven't used it for the last 3 days that mf has been with us, would it still help or would any cross contamination already have taken place?
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