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Old 01-26-2015, 11:45 AM
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update. 56 days(8 weeks old) approx

Hi all. been a while since Sherlocked and I posted, but we wanted to give an update on our little guys progress. unfortunately, its under "budgie behavior"...
everything has gone well for the most part. We talk to him often. trying to teach him "hello" for now. We Have worked with him daily on step ups, and rewarding with millet every time he does something good. One day I even managed to teach him to turn around on his perch. he doesn't mind sitting on our shoulders, or cuddling in our neck and hair. overall, a good boy. He also seems to enjoy when I play with his cage toys with him. Occasionally he will let me scratch his neck, but it usually has to start by accident. He gets excited to run around on our dresser, and loves chasing and flinging bits of paper about. seems to really get worked up. but recently tho, ive noticed some changes. perhaps its just him maturing or getting more comfortable with us? perhaps there are too many cooks in the kitchen, so to speak? He is different with me than with Dawn. perhaps its technique?

here is a list of recent behavior changes.

What im NOT concerned with:
-being more vocal. mumbling to himself. happy chirping.
-playing with toys in cage. climbing all over them.
-flapping wings while on perch.
-sort of trying new foods we offer
-finally chewing on cuttlebone

What I AM concerned with:
-sometimes digging half his food dish out on to the cage floor, looking for millet. or climbing inside his enclosed food dish..
-sometimes deliberately trapping himself in his food dish, or between the cage and a perch or the food dish. (kind of funny actually)
-sometimes flying off our hands and crashing/burning on the floor or into something. I fear its injuring him and making him cranky.
-making a loud ****** off ACK ACK ACK sound occasionally
-increasingly biting, instead of stepping up, sometimes with an angry squak or two right before.
-doing the ACK ACK while flapping wings. I do wonder if its frustration because his wings are hitting toys in the cage..
-sometimes attacking his toys in a seemingly angry manor
-generally unsure before stepping up, suddenly. perhaps looking for millet, or he wont do it?


I generally try to work with him in a quiet room, but I don't always have the luxury. ive noticed he does get distracted, or less cooperative if too much is going on. Mirrors have been avoided, though we thought it was cute when he thought theres a bird in our bedroom closet mirrors. I really feel like mirrors are messing with his little head. I think they should be avoided.. so...
Recently he has starting biting. At first it was just with Dawn, but has now been happening with me. Seems to be happening more. We know to not react, and are really unsure about if we should say NO, or frown or whatever. ive heard different things. I actually got really frustrated yesterday, because he wanted nothing to do with me. only would bite. that's hard to stomach, after having perfect success between me and him. now I feel like progress is backwards.

We have an 11 year old girl in the house who loves the bird. We do not allow her to take him out of the cage unless supervised, though I am concerned she has tried(more than once) when we weren't around. She also has a tendency to move around quickly, argue with us, and make noises, listen to music, or watch tv shows that are, in my opinion, too stressful for poor bird. does a budgie really want to hear yelling, scary music, and high drama tv? im constantly asking her to keep it down. its a new thing, and she doesn't understand why it would affect birdy. maybe im being over cautious? I don't think any one thing is detrimental, but if you have enough of them, they add up. all I know is, our budgie is suddenly showing some aggression. and I feel that if I were allowed to train him in a perfect environment, none of this would be happening. Dawn will weigh in on her experiences as well.

please correct me if im wrong, or set my mind at ease! <--- budgie thinking twice about sad little me.


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Old 01-26-2015, 12:18 PM
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It sounds like your little one is becoming more independent and is reaching puberty!
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Old 01-26-2015, 12:47 PM
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It sounds like your little one is becoming more independent and is reaching puberty!
Thanks Nuxi. Puberty at only 8 weeks old?? He's beginning to "freak out" on his toys. Running around and moving so fast like al little spaz a lot of the time. Its very new behavior, I'm sure its normal, but concerning cause it's so different. He's definitely beginning to sing more.
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If he doesn't have room to flap his wings in his cage without hitting something, then his cage is too small.

Other than that, sounds like he's being a normal budgie to me.
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If he doesn't have room to flap his wings in his cage without hitting something, then his cage is too small.

Other than that, sounds like he's being a normal budgie to me.
I feel like his cage is plenty big. perhaps we have too many toys in there? lol

one thing I don't get is.. if we don't react to his bite, but he still never steps up, doesn't he win? isn't that positive reinforcement in itself? I mean, we could come back later once hes in a better mood, but the fact remains that he got his way. you can only sit there so long with your hand in front of him?
usually showing him the millet will work, but then I feel im rewarding him for the recent bite. arggg its so frustrating! lol
this was a non issue a couple weeks ago

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Dawn,in some cases the baby molt starts at about 3 months. Maybe your little one is such an "early bird".
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Thanks Nuxi. Anyone know if it's bad to take his food out of his cage. I took his out, and he's seems like he's screaming at me on and off
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i've found that he's more willing to workwith me if he's actually hungry.
I swear that having millet in his food makes him care a little less about the millet I try to train him with..
over the weekend I removed the food first thing in the morning one day, and had really good luck practicing step ups etc. when we were done, I gave the food back and he went on eating happily.
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You should never leave a budgie without food in the cage... They eat when they need too...

As far as the biting, you aren't rewarding him for the bite, as long as he's stepping up. He takes it as being rewarded for stepping up, since he doesn't get it if he bites.
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Try very hard not to react to any biting, but still get him to step up. If he steps up with no bites, he gets some millet. If he steps up with biting, no millet. He will quickly make the connection, and also learn he has to step up either way.
Keep the food in the cage, but do not put any millet in his cage at all. Millet is for out of cage time, with you, only.
Some birds moult early some often, some for a long time. Some are nice throughout it all, some are little punks. Sometimes they act differently through each moult. Remember this is a little person. Not a human person, but a person nonetheless. He's got attitude and likes and dislikes, and is building his personality. Also remember sometimes training can take months, or even a year or so. Just be persistant, patient, and just reward positively, ignoring anything you don't want him to do. You can do it!!
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