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Old 03-09-2015, 03:27 PM
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Hi everyone, sorry for the amount of post I am creating. I just like having an outreach for these things I am unsure about.

I have separated my flock by gender, but Bumblebee is being very mean to Storm Trooper. I've noticed since I posted the picture of Bumblebee's cere, it has started getting darker. Which is another reason I have separated them (no baby budgies yet! I am going to assume that they were only 2 months when I bought Bumblebee and Magatron so that would make them about 6-7 months old).

Should I separate them further? Magatron and Jedi are getting along great. Megatron calls out for Bumblebee a lot, this is the first time they have been apart from each other since I've had them.

Should I give it a couple more days? Is it because she is coming into condition? How can I help them get along?

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No need to apologise - the more the merrier! Females do tend to be mean towards each other, especially if they are in condition. There are more people having troubles with two males rather than two females, according to this forum. Separating by gender is not always the best solution, but it should be possible to work out.. Hmm.. Pardon my sleepy brain. What about giving them the oppurtunity to bond more? Over some millet, a fancy toy, time.. you can put a peace keeper in there, bit I'm not fully on board with all of their genders and how many they are etc.

You can also try to give them less to fight over. Put in an extra seed cup and water bottle, some extra toys, make sure their cage is big enough and that their perches allows them to be far away from each other. Let them fly out a lot to have less energy in the cage and more fun outside, don't force them on each other and so on. I hope some of these tips where helpful
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Hormonal Hen's coming into condition can be very territorial. I don't know how big the cage is you have her and stormtrooper in but it need's to be good sized. I assume Stormtrooper is a hen ? The best breeder I know keep's her bird's separated by gender so hopefully her, and other's can give you some good advice on how to proceed...
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No need to apologise - the more the merrier! Females do tend to be mean towards each other, especially if they are in condition. There are more people having troubles with two males rather than two females, according to this forum. Separating by gender is not always the best solution, but it should be possible to work out.. Hmm.. Pardon my sleepy brain. What about giving them the oppurtunity to bond more? Over some millet, a fancy toy, time.. you can put a peace keeper in there, bit I'm not fully on board with all of their genders and how many they are etc.

You can also try to give them less to fight over. Put in an extra seed cup and water bottle, some extra toys, make sure their cage is big enough and that their perches allows them to be far away from each other. Let them fly out a lot to have less energy in the cage and more fun outside, don't force them on each other and so on. I hope some of these tips where helpful
Excellent advice about out of cage fly time to use up a little energy. 'Dog people' have a saying; A tired dog is a good dog!! Probably works for budgies too!
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Female budgies are generally more aggressive than males. The aggressiveness can increase when the female comes into condition.

The larger the cage you have the two females in the better they will do because it allows both budgies space to move away from one another. Put perches or swings at the same high point in the cage so neither will be "dominate" over the other. Ensure you have multiple food dishes and multiple water dishes available for them in the cage.

If possible, move the male budgies cage into a different room so they will be out of sight of the females.
If you have the option to put them in an area where the females cannot hear them, that will be better yet.

If Megatron is calling for Bumblebee while Bumblebee is coming into condition, the fact that she can't get to him may contribute to her aggressive behavior toward Storm Trooper.

Keep an eye on the two females.
If Bumblebee becomes too aggressive toward Storm Trooper then you may end up needing to separate the two females for a period of time.

If so, you can try them together in neutral territory again later on.
Assuming they do well together in neutral territory, you can try housing them together again -- being sure to completely rearrange everything in the cage before they go in together.
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Hi.. don't worry about questions.. I asked sooo many at first, and need to frequently ask questions now. Everyone has been very good about answering in a very supportive way.
Now.. your two hens. I have 3 females and 2 males... call me nuts :nuts:, it just happened that way. Anyway, I have one hen who is aggressive. I have all my birds out of the cage for most of the day. At night, that one hen has to sleep alone. The other two do ok together. The boys are in a separate cage. It just works better. My crabby hen has to be by herself if she gets too aggressive. It really helped, in my case to have extra food and water stations. I also started putting a bit of seed on the clean cage papers and they 'forage' together and seem to get along ok .. just ideas. Also, have 2 swings.. you just don't want them arguing about stuff like that, right?


OOPS!! looks like most of the stuff I posted has already been posted by folks WAY more qualified that I am.
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It's funny that you mention this, because I'm having the same problem, but with two of my boys. I can't figure it out to save my life. They were like brothers, and then I separated male and female, and now, especially in the morning, they bicker like an old married couple.
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It's funny that you mention this, because I'm having the same problem, but with two of my boys. I can't figure it out to save my life. They were like brothers, and then I separated male and female, and now, especially in the morning, they bicker like an old married couple.
Kristen... don't you wonder what in the world they are thinking when they do this stuff?? Probably best if I don't know... My two females that are housed together squabble quite a bit, but nobody gets hurt or overly aggressive ... they just argue.. As long as Ivy understands that Lemony is in charge and gets what she wants when she wants it, all is well. If Ivy forgets or challenges her, well, then, they fight!!.
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Budgies are like "people".
Anytime you spend 24/7 with someone there is bound to be some "bickering" as each has their own "opinion" on how things should be done.
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Today I let them hang out in a common area (the living room) but all Megatron and Jedi were concerned about, was trying to get back into the cage that they all lived in at one point.

Should I move the cage out of sight tomorrow?
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