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Old 03-19-2015, 11:33 AM
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So I have only posted here a few times. I got my first budgie on 2-15. I added the second on 3-13. My first budgie was OK alone, I just felt bad.

I believe the first one to be a male, his name is Oliver.











At first I was thinking the second was a female, but now I think it is a male. If he is male he will be Dexter, if female Sofie.












Any input on their sex would be helpful. They love one another and to me I really don't care what sex they are. I just want to give them names that match their sex.

My next concern is the one that really has me stressed out. DIET! Specifically sprouts. I started feeding them sprouts about a week ago. I got the Lil Bird mix from SproutPeople.org. I grow them then chop them fine. Here's what I am doing:

At 5 AM the birds get their chopped sprouts with a little bit of seed sprinkled on top to get them interested. This stays there until 3:30 or 4 PM. I remove the sprouts and give them seed. The seed stays in until the next morning. I don't want to give up, I know they will eat. I have seen them eating very small amounts of the sprouts but when I come home it looks as if it hasn't been touched. I have removed the cuttle bone during this process and they aren't getting millet.

So, what am I doing wrong, or right? Help, please!

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Old 03-19-2015, 11:35 AM
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And a few more pics of the two of them together.











I figure the more pics you have to look at the better your chances of getting their sex correct! (I know some are blurry. I would be happy to take more if needed!!!)
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I'm no expert, but I think you have two (very, very adorable!) boys. As for diet, don't give up! It's good that you're giving the healthy stuff you want them to try first thing in the morning and then switching to their beloved seed in the evening. My suggestion would be to make a mix of pellets and seed and put it in a ziplock bag so you don't have to mix every morning and offer that during the day as well as the sprouts. If you're at home and schedule allows it, you can try giving them them the seed/pellet mix a couple of hours after the sprouts, so they're more inclined to try the sprouts but not go hungry all day waiting for their evening seed.

I got mine started on veggies using birdy bread with lots and lots of veggies packed in it, some pureed (like baby food jarred veg) or cut/shredded very finely. It's dead easy to make and you just freeze it and thaw out what you need for a few days at a time in the fridge.

You could also try other veggies in different ways to see if it might entice them, like a small bunch of cilantro or parsley hanging from the top of the cage. Just keep trying and eventually their curiosity will give out and they'll try it and hopefully come to liking it.
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I agree with CloudySkies both on the sexing (they look like two adorable males) and on the diet. Young budgies, as yours are, are more likely to try new things if they already have a full crop. As young as they are, I wouldn't take away their seed during the day, as almost 12 hours is a very long time without food if they aren't taking to the sprouts. I would suggest leaving the sprouts for a while and then adding seeds, like CloudySkies says above.

Also incorporating new fruits and veggies would be a great idea! With two budgies, it's twice as likely that one will get curious and want to try the food.

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I would maybe take the seed out late in the evening, then put the new food in first thing in the morning, then remove that after an hour or two and put the seeds in.

Chopped greens wilt rather quickly, so they might not be appetizing at 3PM anymore.
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Two beautiful males! And it looks like they indeed love each other very much

Mallorn is finicky about veggies, too, as many budgies tend to be. Although sprouts is definitely a good idea, I would maybe serve them differently until you see how they like them. Maybe chopped with a little lettuce? Or soaked? Maybe with cilantro or parsley?
You just have to experiment with the veggies to see what and how they like them.
Keep up the good work! Eventually they'll catch on and take a bite of something
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Hi.. your birds are super adorable.. RE: Veggies.. I think you just need to experiment with both the types of veggies you give them and how they are presented.... Mine don't/won't eat the chopped up ones.. If I HANG them in the cage, they tend to like them better. I say this like I know what I'm doing, but let me tell you ... it took much patience and some experimentation over many months to see them enjoy veggies! Each bird is different, but mine like celery leaves, carrots (pushed through the bars so they can nibble at them) and parsley. Go figure, huh?
Good luck with your little ones.. they are darling.
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Yeah, mine saw my cockatiel tasting some freshly rinsed cilantro that I just clipped to the top of the cage (stems and all, I'm all about lazy ways of getting stuff done) and then they suddenly were all about tearing apart the cilantro as well. I don't know how much they eat or if they just enjoy tearing the pieces apart and breaking the stems but I am just going to assume some made it into their GI tract.

Afterwards, I realized that serving it that way does make it more enticing to them because it's more toy like, you know? Like a shredable toy and they especially like it when it's wet. I'm sure there are more tricks like that out there that I'll read about or just stumble across.
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Yeah, mine saw my cockatiel tasting some freshly rinsed cilantro that I just clipped to the top of the cage (stems and all, I'm all about lazy ways of getting stuff done) and then they suddenly were all about tearing apart the cilantro as well. I don't know how much they eat or if they just enjoy tearing the pieces apart and breaking the stems but I am just going to assume some made it into their GI tract.

Afterwards, I realized that serving it that way does make it more enticing to them because it's more toy like, you know? Like a shredable toy and they especially like it when it's wet. I'm sure there are more tricks like that out there that I'll read about or just stumble across.
yep, the toy effect!
I have also laid greens simply on top of the cage. Nosy little critters they are....and boredom, and you know, it's almost out of reach....

I need to dig out my pictures, not sure how far I get though, half day of school tomorrow, cookies to sell, and church cleanup day this weekend....spring break next week....(parent, not student...)
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I have a couple of foraging stations. I will sprinkle some seed onto a paper towel I lined in an untreated wood, very shallow box. Similar to the base of those bird play gyms you can buy. I put the sprouts in two corners and some micro green in another corner. Sometimes shredded carrots and chopped red bell pepper, sometimes broccoli. The box is probably 18" by 18". I move it to different areas. I also put a container of wheatgrass next to it. It is not the best set up, but they have to search for what they want, leave the box to go get water from the water dish and they are walking around to pick up their food. They love the wheatgrass. Because they are searching (well, in a way) for what to eat, they give everything a taste. Mine eat everything. I figure that they are programmed to forage, so try to set up something to mimic that. Keeps them busy too. And moving. And when they have to be caged, they eat from their bowls no problem. And they eat whatever I clip into a clip for them if it's something they like such as kale or broccoli. Might be worth a try?
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