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Old 03-22-2015, 02:26 AM
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Default Birds fighting nonstop - Please help

Okay hi everyone!

If you don't care about the story then skip to question

STORY:


I got 2 budgies 3 years ago, Petco said they were male and female. Turns out they are female and female.
After that 3 years of having them and finding out they are female and female I bought a male budgie and a female budgie.

The new female died after vomiting her food and lack of oxygen.
Now I have 2 females and one male.

FIGHTING STORY:

The 2 females were together for 3 years and did everything together and never fought.

Now they have begun to fight A LOT. One of the females Katy is like dating the male and they do everything together and have mated several times but no egg yet.

Every so often Katy will bite the other female Kiwi for no reason. Now they do this every time. Kiwi will randomly bite Katy and so on.

Then the male even begins to bite Kiwi too!
I have to move my finger around the cage at night so they all sit on one perch in a circle and sleep together so they have each other and don't fight.

Not sure why Katy keeps like opening her mouth and closing it repeatedly and she isn't each spinach. She tries but can't I think she lost a tiny part of her beak, although when calm she looks normal but couldn't eat spinach she is eating seeds though.

QUESTION:

Since the female with fighting with the other female but one of the females is like dating and always with the one male then should I separate them?

Maybe put the 2 females in one cage and put them in one room so they can bond while I put the male in another cage in another room so he can CALM THE HECK UP.
He's crazy too. He taught my female birds how to bite and they never did that before.

Please help, no injuries have been made. They mostly fight when I make them be together but I do it in sadness of the other female who has no mate.

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Old 03-22-2015, 07:38 AM
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Hello, having three budgies is not a good number in a lot of cases. Especially as you have two females and one male. The females are fighting because they both want the male budgie to themselves.
You can either get another male budgie to bond with the female that is left out, or separate the budgies. Either put the two females together and leave the male on his own which I find quite sad.
Or you can place the bonded pair together in a separate cage and buy another budgie to be friends with the male bird.
This is what I would do.
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As Cathy said - having more females than males usually isn't a good idea (budgie girls are horrible in fighting over the boys), and evening out the numbers with another male should help with that!
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But another bird from like the store will be like a year old right? Mine are like 3 years old.

Sorry I've had them for about 2 years exactly since I got then from the store. The thing is Petco told me they were male and female but they turned out to be both female. If I go and find a bird with a blue cere and I put it in a separate cage with my lonely female for about 2 days or 1 day then put them back in the big cage will this be okay?
I hope they don't fight...I'm worried that the already paired female will then go for the other male. Will this happen?

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Even if they rearrange partners (budgies aren't necessarily sticking with the same partner forever) you'll have less trouble in the long run.
Maybe you can adopt a budgie of the appropriate age (which would also make it easier to determine gender) from someone other than a pet store.
You keep the new bird separately (different room, no contact) from the other birds until you're sure you're not bringing in anything infectious etc. with him. Then you can put the new bird's cage close to the existing birds' cages. You'll possibly be able to see if one of your previous birds is particularly interested in the newcomer. If you, you can introduce that bird to the new boy specifically, otherwise you can also met them all meet. Try picking neutral ground for that that doesn't "belong" to anyone. A room they're not usually in might be good, or if you don't have that, at least outside of their cages so neither has the home advantage. Don't just stick the new bird in with the others, so they won't perceive him as an intruder. If using whichever is your largest bird cage is your only option for letting them meet, clean everything in it well and rearrange the cage so it'll be "different". That helps forestall some problems, but it's not a fool-proof approach. Then again, nothing IS. Those little birdies just have way too much personality for that.
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Okay thank you! I couldn't find any birds on the internet plus you never know how they may have been treated.
I'm gonna go to Petco or petsmart today and pick out a male and put the male and lonely female together for a day then rearrange cage put them all in the big cage together.
Thanks!
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Don't drop a pet store bird in with your others without a period of quarantine! You never know what you may be bringing in with them! Keep them well separated until you know for certain that your new bird is healthy. There is, unfortunately, no way around that part of it.
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Oh okay...how long should I do it for?
Could someone please answer this:
Should I put the lonely female with the new male together so that they get used to each other and maybe bond for a day or two?
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Not before you're done with quarantine. I keep newcomers separate for ~ 4-6 weeks here, a bit depending on specific situation.

As for your other question, I'd let the birds form their pairs according to their own preferences rather than trying to make them bond in a specific combination (the hen that picked your first male might decide she likes the other better - and in that case you would have way more bickering again if the two ladies have to "swap" boys than if you let them figure out who does best with whom on their own right away).
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Oh okay...how long should I do it for?
Could someone please answer this:
Should I put the lonely female with the new male together so that they get used to each other and maybe bond for a day or two?
No, don't do that. Like people above said, the two females are fighting over the male. This is making the male stressed. And even though none of them have been injured yet, they could be injured soon unless you do something.

You have three choices for how to fix the situation:
1. Buy another male bird to add to the three you have.
2. Keep the male in a cage on his own.
3. Keep the lonely female in a cage on her own.

Personally, I think you should buy a fourth bird so that none of your birds have to be lonely. If you get a new budgie, you can post pictures on here before you buy it so we can tell you if it is a male or not. You would have to keep the new bird in quarantine for at least 3 weeks so that it doesn't introduce diseases to your current birds.

In the meantime, make sure your birds have at least 1-2 hours per day of out of cage time to give them some space from each other. Please keep us updated!
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