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Old 03-27-2015, 09:28 AM
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We lost our Baby Buddy sometime during the night. He was sleepy yesterday, but we put it down to him starting his juvenile moult, he was still eating and drinking, though his droppings were an odd green.

I thought I'd see how he was today with regards to getting him to the vet or not, but when I uncovered him this morning he lay dead on his bed with his head resting on his seed dish. I thought he was sleeping at first.

Buddy was 3 months old today and was becoming very tame and beginning to talk. After losing Ollie back at the end of January I didn't expect to be in this situation again so soon.

I don't know whether to try again with another budgie some time, right now it doesn't seem worth the grief.

I've no idea what killed him, but he didn't go the same way as Ollie who had pneumonia. With Buddy it seemed like poisoning, he always did this 'gag' thing since we got him at 7 weeks old, we were told "it's crop adjustment, they all do it to a degree". But I'm wondering if this was a sign of something not being right.

Can things like this happen at such a young age?

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I am so sorry to hear about your loss. It must be awful to have to go through the same thing so close together.
Did you get them from the same place? Maybe it's facilities are not clean or sanitary. Given that they are so young, it must have been a virus or infection which was with him for awhile.
Also, take note of where you kept him in the house and the condition of his cage. Since I doubt it was some thing like this, don't panic, but it's always good to be sure.
Sometimes you just get a little baby who just wasn't healthy, and it happens. If you eventually get another companion, thoroughly disinfect the cage with ACV or grapefruit seed extract, toss all the toys and change the food and water bowls, as well as any perches.
I hope you figure out what happened to little Buddy!
Can you take a sample of his droppings to your avian vet? Maybe by running some tests, they can see what was the cause of Buddy's untimely death.
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I'm so sorry for your loss, especially coming so soon after Ollie's passing.

Green droppings, if not caused by eating green veg, are often cause for concern. They can indicate that your budgie isn't eating, or that he has liver damage. From what I've seen others on the forum say, often when a budgie dies this young it's a genetic flaw and there's nothing you could have done. Was Buddy a pet-store budgie? That sort of thing is more common with less-careful breeders. (That's not to say there aren't pet stores that work with good breeders and offer healthy, carefully bred budgies!)

I hope that given time, you'll consider trying again with another budgie, but I certainly understand not wanting to go through this again while the grief is so fresh. My heart goes out to you.
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With in 2 Weeks have your budgie visit an avian vet for a get to know you visit.

Every day examine vent area and clear any impacted droppings, Start with probiotics in drinking water. Also Electrolyte to support adjustment. These items plus a list of others should be in a budgie first aid kit. Examine cage and accessories for heavy metal contamination. Take cage to vet at time of examine. Check for any contamination from contaminated air like air freshner, orcleaning chems. lysol, teflon pans, candles, carb cleaner or gas brought in on clothes. Install air cleaner for birds room. Be sure food is dry and fresh or kept in frig if it spoils easily. Switch to white vinegar to clean around birds or use Avitech: aviclean then follow up with F10 or similar for extreme contamination. Be sure cage is warm and free of drafts. Aviod exposure to outside birds. Add ACV to drinking water intermittently to repel fungus and other organisms. Use lixit bottles and disinfect regularly as open water dish can harbor harmful organisms. clean grid and catch pan regularly. This is a partial list we use when a bird becomes ill. Many problems can be traced to good clean air circulation. Vacuum daily near the cage. Talk with your vet about common diseases and any suggestions to help protect your bird. It is so painful to loose a little one. Be sure the bird does not become injured in a night freight incident. Birds can really beat themselves up at these times. Falling off perches can break neck , wing or leg in weak birds. See avian vet at first sign of illness. With out a necropsy it is hard to ID the cause, All we can do is the best we can and pray.

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I'm sorry to hear about little Buddy. I had the same thing happened with a baby that we hand raised who never weaned and eventually passed away. It is heartbreaking, and we learned a lot about purchasing from safe, hygienic and ethical breeders.

I am hoping that your grief will lessen quickly and that, eventually, you can open up your heart to a new budgie.

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Thanks for all your comments

I was very careful to keep his cage as clean and sanitary as possible, provided vitamins and nutrients to his water. I do wonder if Buddy always had a health issue. He was a hand raised chick, removed from his parents at 2 weeks of age, and hand fed thereafter.

I bought him from a breeder who was advertising locally. He said he was new to it but had been around other breeders for a while, the aviary he had looked clean and tidy, though I did wonder if it was ok for the birds as it was less than 5c outside and the aviary was at the same temperature. Buddy was huddled up with another older budgie in a cage, just the two of them. The breeder insisted he was fine, as long as there wasn't a draught.

I now wonder if I should have listened to my gut instinct to go to a small pet store instead.
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I'm so sorry, that must have been devastating! Particularly after such a recent similar loss. In my experience it's really not that common to have that sort of issues with young Budgies.

I don't know very much about such things, but if you do decide to try again maybe there's a member in your area that could steer you towards a good breeder our you can find a good pet shop. And I agree with completely disinfecting the cage and staying over with other items. Hugs!
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Oh Gosh!! I'm so sorry for your loss. All the members have already given their expert opinions for the causes which may have lead to the untimely death of your little one. My mind too tends with the others that it may have been ill from the very beginning and as you said he had been 'gagging' since you got him from the pet store, this must have been the cause. But as members have stated, do take necessary steps and ensure a clean environment for your budgies with nutritious food and a balanced diet with loads of calcium.
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Very sorry to hear you are experiencing this again...
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