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Old 05-19-2015, 11:04 AM
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I've heard owners of larger parrots are discouraged from letting their birds on their shoulders because it might promote aggression.

Two of my birds like to stand on my shoulders and preen my hair, but sometimes kiwi will bite down on the back of my neck pretty hard.

Is there a way to discourage just hard biting (I'm ok with them nibbling softly) or should I never let them on my shoulder?

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I don't know - my parrots (African Greys) ride my shoulders pretty much whenever they feel like it, and I have no problem with biting. My budgies are all over me whenever they like, too, I just don't much like them IN my hair because they're not exactly house-trained.
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Old 05-19-2015, 12:33 PM
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I've heard owners of larger parrots are discouraged from letting their birds on their shoulders because it might promote aggression.

Two of my birds like to stand on my shoulders and preen my hair, but sometimes kiwi will bite down on the back of my neck pretty hard.

Is there a way to discourage just hard biting (I'm ok with them nibbling softly) or should I never let them on my shoulder?
I think it should be fine to let them stand on you. My budgie, also named Kiwi, loves to hop on me whenever he feels like it. He hasn't shown any aggression at all except for the fact that he likes to bite my ear sometimes when preening my hair He isn't aggressive any other time so I think it should be fine to let him stay on you.
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As long as Kiwi doesn't climb on just to bite or hurt you, he probably just does it on accident or in play. Mallorn climbs all over whenever she wants to, occasionally she nibbles a little more roughly but it's not often. I know an Amazon Parrot who is bonded to me (he's not mine, lives with a friend) and every time I visit, he will not get off my shoulder for the world. Sometimes he gets over excited and bites me as he's preening and when that happens, I gently push his beak away and say "No, Bucky." Usually this works pretty well.
Hope this helps, I know the struggle of over excited beaking!
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Sammy is always on my shoulder as well! I've noticed that he will nibble my husband especially when his beard is a bit stubbly and when he's wearing a gold chain. As well, when I wear a shirt with a lace collar, he likes to play with it. If you can pull back your hair, remove your earrings and jewelry, and wear a "boring" shirt, you might find that the biting disappears. Good luck!
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thanks for your responses everybody, I'll try to see if I can discourage the biting with some No's. The neck is pretty sensitive and kiwi really digs into it with her beak and then grinds back and forth (ouch!)

The first time she did it, I tried to resist making a scene but was totally unsuccessful, because it hurt more than when she used to bite my hand.

If anyone wants to try it, pinch the soft skin on the back of your neck with your fingernails lol



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Sammy is always on my shoulder as well! I've noticed that he will nibble my husband especially when his beard is a bit stubbly and when he's wearing a gold chain. As well, when I wear a shirt with a lace collar, he likes to play with it. If you can pull back your hair, remove your earrings and jewelry, and wear a "boring" shirt, you might find that the biting disappears. Good luck!
PrincipePio... actually my shirt is their favorite part! They go crazy for the seam that is on the shoulder, Blue is the only one that won't climb on completely but even she can't resist chewing the shirt
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I think it's fine unless he's pinching you and it hurts. Some parrots get shoulder privileges, some don't. Some get displacement aggression where you are the convenient thing to bite even if they are mad at someone or something farther away. Some feel a little superior in that position on the shoulder too, and certain individuals may become more prone to biting. You are at a disadvantage when a bird is on your shoulder because you can't see up there or read body language. Shoulders are a privilege to many parrots. I don't see a budgie bite can do much damage like a parrot can, and I "personally" let my budgie(s) get away with bad behavior at times I admit, where I have strict training for my parrots cause I know mature parrots can get dangerous if left without rules.

Edit: I just read you said he DOES pinch hard and grind! I think the boy needs some training, and save the shoulder as a privilege
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I think it's fine unless he's pinching you and it hurts. Some parrots get shoulder privileges, some don't. Some get displacement aggression where you are the convenient thing to bite even if they are mad at someone or something farther away. Some feel a little superior in that position on the shoulder too, and certain individuals may become more prone to biting. You are at a disadvantage when a bird is on your shoulder because you can't see up there or read body language. Shoulders are a privilege to many parrots. I don't see a budgie bite can do much damage like a parrot can, and I "personally" let my budgie(s) get away with bad behavior at times I admit, where I have strict training for my parrots cause I know mature parrots can get dangerous if left without rules.

Edit: I just read you said he DOES pinch hard and grind! I think the boy needs some training, and save the shoulder as a privilege
she flies to my shoulder all the time now, but her biting has decreased after I started saying "no" and then putting her back in the cage. I think she understands it's punishment for biting. She has always been a nippy bird though, so I don't know if it will go away completely but she needs to learn to beak things softly.
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Yes, I believe. Just be sure they can't get in your hair. Once, when Posy was on my shoulder, he got tangled in my long hair with his claws.
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Hello, sorry late reply.
I have no issues with Beauregard riding on my shoulder. In regard to the biting issue - when Beau was going through his teenage stage he started biting to test us, I sprayed my hands with his non-toxic lice spray (it smells funny and would not taste nice) let it dry and then when he would bite he would get the taste of it. It worked a miracle - it only took 2 or 3 times and he has never bitten us since. You could try putting a similar type solution on your neck for a bit to break the habit.
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