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I am after some help sexing our budgies Sugar (yellow/green) and Chirpy. Also wondering if the are recessive pieds. We have had Sugar since late January. I think it was about 4 months old and Chirpy came home with us about a week ago.

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Hi there and welcome to the forums!
Congrats on your new addition--both little ones are just gorgeous! As for gender, Sugar is a little girl--for sure. From that picture, Chirpy looks like she coulda girl too, although I can't really say because it looks like you used flash, which washes out the cere's "true" color. To determine gender, full-frontal pictures taken in natural light with no flash are best. Do you have any?

I agree that they both look recessive pied. If you have more pictures of both your little ones, we could better tell you their mutations-wing shots, belly shots, and close ups help!

It's great to see you here, and I can't wait to see you and your little munchkins around the forums! Feel free to ask about anything you're unsure of after reading the informative stickies at the top of every sub forum
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Thank you I'm really looking forward to learning all about how to raise these beautiful birds. Below are the only other pics I currently have. Unfortunately yes I used flash so will take some more without flash to help, and will upload later.

I've been looking around the forum...have never really been on one of these before so it is all quite new to me. From what I have seen it is hugely informative and everyone is extremely helpful.







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Beautiful birds kirtsy !

SW (or anyone),
Help me learn here ... So how do you tell the difference with the white one between df dominant pied, and recessive pied? He has so little back markings like the ones I've seen df dominant.
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Here is a pg I found when trying to find out about our Dominant Pied...
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Sugar is recessive pied hen.
Chirpy is recessive pied cock bird (pink cere). He might have other mutations (e.g., opaline) which reduce head and wing markings.

Recessive pied budgies never develop iris rings. I don't see iris rings in your birds.

Dominant pied budgies develop iris rings.
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Thank you I'm really looking forward to learning all about how to raise these beautiful birds. Below are the only other pics I currently have. Unfortunately yes I used flash so will take some more without flash to help, and will upload later.

I've been looking around the forum...have never really been on one of these before so it is all quite new to me. From what I have seen it is hugely informative and everyone is extremely helpful.


Thank you for the pictures--Chirpy is adorable and almost certainly a little boy.
The difference between DF dominant pied and recessive pied is as mentioned, it's nearly impossible to tell because the iris rings wouldn't be present anyways at such a young age. After his first moult, if he develops iris rings and his cere turns blue, he is DF recessive pied, but if his cere stays pinkish and his eyes have no iris ring, he is recessive pied.
I don't think he's opaline because opaline dilutes the body color 10%, his blue looks undiluted. I may well be wrong because the wing pattern looks a little like opaline, but since there's only one marked feather, it's hard to tell and the camera flash could have distorted his true color.

As Susan mentioned, there could be many other underlying mutations masked by the pied trait
They are gorgeous
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Thanks for the info. I wasn't sure how young kirtsy's birds were. One of the things I absolutely love about Twigs is his dark eyes as an adult. It makes him look so cute and babyish .
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