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Hey everyone.
So I've had tow budgies for tow years now since they were a month old.... One of them is a green delute male for sure(i know how to sex budgies), the other is a blue dilute, but i never knew its real sex... His cere never took a definite colour, his behaviour was never obvious, and his overall physique is weird... I think it has some kind of deformity of some kind(sex organs, hormones, genetics...) he chirps and sings like a male, he bites hard like a female(lol), other times he acts in between the tow genders... He confuses me a lot... But i love him anyways.... They both are quite tame(although i didn't have time to interact with them for a long while). Oh and his cere colour is a combination of light blue, purple, white, mauve... Almost like a young budgies cere.... And his body figure is very weird like no other budgie i've seen: very slender and longish body, wider tail, smallish head, weird posture, and he flies and walk differently(not is a bad way, but just different).... That's the best way i can describe him... He is active and loves life.... And friendlier than the average budgie.... Him and his mate are good buddies, they preen, play and feed each other, but i feel sorry for they other budgie wich i sure is male trying to court him and everything in the cage lol, i want to get him a girlfriend and put her in the same cage with them, the cage is big enough, and my budgies are good friends and one of them is unsure about his sexuality so i thought they won't fight over the female, because as i said the blue one has no real sex(lol).... And if they fight i can seperate....
Reply ASAP guys because a female standard green caught my eyes yesterday and i wanna get her before she's sold out....
Excuse my spelling(on the phone) and thanks all


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It is not recommended to house two males and one female in the same cage. Even ratios of male to female if you are keeping both genders in one cage is always best.

I would not recommend adding a third budgie whether male or female to your current flock. Your two males get along well and are best friends. Adding another bird (or even two) will disrupt the dynamic.
Trying to have an odd number of birds in a cage generally results in two of the birds bonding and the other being left out and treated like a "third wheel".

If you do decide you are going to get another budgie (or two), please be sure your cage meets at least the minimum recommended size for the total number.

Minimum size for 4 budgies-----34x18x25"
Volume = 15,300" cubic inches

When it somes to cage size, bigger is always better no matter how much out of cage time your budgies get each day. Be sure the bar spacing is no more than 1/2" apart.

Additionally, if you ever decide to get additional budgies, please remember you should quarantine the new bird(s) for 4-6 weeks.
Quarantine means housing your new bird in a different cage in a different room as far away as possible from the room your current bird(s) is in for a period of 4-6 weeks.

Budgies mask symptoms when they are ill. Symptoms may not show up for over two weeks. Often you will not even realize your bird is not well. Many budgie illnesses are airborne which is why you need to quarantine your new bird in a completely different room.

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You can get the budgie sexed by an avian vet that would definitely help also his other strange body shape e.t.c. could be addressed at the same time.
Getting a third budgie will cause problems regardless of it's sex. One of the three budgies will be left out and possibly attacked. If you must get this other budgie I would advise getting another cage and separating the one who you think is different. But then he will be lonely so really you are no better off. having a male and female could also have other problems such as unwanted breeding.
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Hi and to Talk Budgies!

It is not recommended to house two males and one female in the same cage. Even ratios of male to female if you are keeping both genders in one cage is always best.

I would not recommend adding a third budgie whether male or female to your current flock. Your two males get along well and are best friends. Adding another bird (or even two) will disrupt the dynamic.
Trying to have an odd number of birds in a cage generally results in two of the birds bonding and the other being left out and treated like a "third wheel".

If you do decide you are going to get another budgie (or two), please be sure your cage meets at least the minimum recommended size for the total number.

Minimum size for 4 budgies-----34x18x25"
Volume = 15,300" cubic inches

When it somes to cage size, bigger is always better no matter how much out of cage time your budgies get each day. Be sure the bar spacing is no more than 1/2" apart.

Additionally, if you ever decide to get additional budgies, please remember you should quarantine the new bird(s) for 4-6 weeks.
Quarantine means housing your new bird in a different cage in a different room as far away as possible from the room your current bird(s) is in for a period of 4-6 weeks.

Budgies mask symptoms when they are ill. Symptoms may not show up for over two weeks. Often you will not even realize your bird is not well. Many budgie illnesses are airborne which is why you need to quarantine your new bird in a completely different room.

https://talkbudgies.com/your-budgies-...important.html

With regard to determining your bird's gender, if you post clear, in-focus pictures taken in natural light following the instructions in these links, then members will be able to advise you.

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Thank you very much for the warm welcome and for all the help!
I've read all the information i need long before i bought my budgies, but thank you... My bad i didn't specify the question... So here it is: has anyone heard about or had such a weird budgie? How did they deal with them?

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You can get the budgie sexed by an avian vet that would definitely help also his other strange body shape e.t.c. could be addressed at the same time.
Getting a third budgie will cause problems regardless of it's sex. One of the three budgies will be left out and possibly attacked. If you must get this other budgie I would advise getting another cage and separating the one who you think is different. But then he will be lonely so really you are no better off. having a male and female could also have other problems such as unwanted breeding.
Thanks a lot pretty boy for the reply!
Yes it's indeed not a good idea to have three budgies in the cage, but i was just wondering if my weird budgie wouldn't mind as if it's sexually inactive... But you're right i almost forgot he will be a third wheel... And you know what i don't have time to handle the breeding... So i'm just going to enjoy my lovely boys for the meantime.... And the male always mounts his toys... So he'll be good lol
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To help with the continual urge to "mate", make sure he has access to lots of flight/climbing exercise. Ensure he has two or three swings to encourage him to keep moving and tire himself out. Chew toys like Kabobs and other shredding toys are helpful and you’ll want to be sure to provide plenty of wood to chew--especially when he is in condition.

How much out-of-cage flight time does he get each day?

Reduce the number of hours of light he gets as well as the percent of protein and other foods used to bring birds into condition.

You may want to consider having him checked by an Avian Vet. Sometimes the vet will suggest a special diet or hormone injection to balance the natural hormones.

I will tell you that I have a lovebird that has an overactive sex drive. When he gets amorous with the curtain, quilt, pillow or whatever has caught his fancy, I just ignore him and let him enjoy himself.
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To help with the continual urge to "mate", make sure he has access to lots of flight/climbing exercise. Ensure he has two or three swings to encourage him to keep moving and tire himself out. Chew toys like Kabobs and other shredding toys are helpful and you?ll want to be sure to provide plenty of wood to chew--especially when he is in condition.

How much out-of-cage flight time does he get each day?

Reduce the number of hours of light he gets as well as the percent of protein and other foods used to bring birds into condition.

You may want to consider having him checked by an Avian Vet. Sometimes the vet will suggest a special diet or hormone injection to balance the natural hormones.

I will tell you that I have a lovebird that has an overactive sex drive. When he gets amorous with the curtain, quilt, pillow or whatever has caught his fancy, I just ignore him and let him enjoy himself.
Thanks again Faery bee for the reply!
He has lots of different perches(wooden perches, natural branches...) and indeed he is chewing on them and already made a lot of damage lol... He also has a lot of toys to play with... All homemade! He especially love a little christmas tree ball attached next to a perch, always courting it and making love with it , and i also made them a chew toy long ago and it's almost dead lol, its a wooden scout scarf band, attached to a robbon in front of a perch, he's so cute how he holds it with his little foot and nibles the fibers off... And they had a little ladder i made of wooden bbq skewers but they destroyed it long ago... And many other stuff that they enjoy...
I don't s supplement with protein rich foods just leafy greens and a peice of apple... That's what they like mainly...
They don't particularily like their time outside but i give them time in a closed room every now and then( i used to let them out everyday but now i don't have time and they just sit somewhere high and it's hard to get them back in.... (Maybe because they spend the day on the veranda wall enjoying nature's goods. In the summer they stay out with a double cover, in winter they stay in the laundry room wich is attached to the veranda, if the night is colder than usual we take them inside too, we live in an apartment in the countryside).
But we spend a lot of time on the big veranda it has a swing and a set of tables and chairs and special curtains for the sun and wind... So we spend a lot of time with the birds and they enjoy our company....
So yeah he has what he needs to relief his sexual desires but i feel sorry for him ( well i shouldnt thats normal)....
Again so happy chatting with you....
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It sounds as though your budgies have a lovely arrangement with lots of toys and things to keep them stimulated and busy!

Just a word of caution about your little fellow chewing on ribbon, rope or any type cotton, synthetic material or undigestable material.

Ingesting the fibers can cause crop impaction in budgies and I know you don't want to risk that.

Please take a look at this thread:
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It sounds as though your budgies have a lovely arrangement with lots of toys and things to keep them stimulated and busy!

Just a word of caution about your little fellow chewing on ribbon, rope or any type cotton, synthetic material or undigestable material.

Ingesting the fibers can cause crop impaction in budgies and I know you don't want to risk that.

Please take a look at this thread:
https://talkbudgies.com/your-budgies-...e-perches.html
Yes yes tru but i meant he chews the wood fibers not the ribbon but they do chew the fiber of their cage covers...they destroy it... But they do not enhale it.... But even though i'm gonna chamge the covers(wich are big towels) with something that doesn't have those fibers peaking. Again thanks for the replies
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