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Old 06-14-2015, 09:30 AM
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I have had my Pixie for almost a year. Only since last month, she has finally started coming out on her own. She is semi-tame, but can be very territorial, moody, and unwilling to cooperate especially because she is only a little more than a year old and it is still a spring-like environment. She has recently started being addicted to this branch with origami hanging cranes I have in the same room. She sits on it and chirps with the birds singing mating calls outside, so she really loves the spot. I have no problem with her being out on it, in fact I am very happy she is finally opening up. However, she spends a lot of the time in her cage climbing the cage walls and chewing the bars, trying to pluck/break them apart. I feel terrible and let her out, but I feel this adds to her obsession. She seems to be going crazy when she chews the bars as she often starts fluttering around the cage and frantically runs around. She calms down once I take her out, but I am not always at home to let her out there!

Previously, I have posted about her vomiting. I know this a severe issue, but the vet said there shouldn't be a problem (which I am doubting). She has started vomiting again, but it might be regurgitating. She displays signs of both regurgitating and vomiting, so I'm not entirely sure. This might have something to do with it?

She is a female budgie, around a year and two months old. She is otherwise happy, accepting head scratches and singing along to music and the birds outside.

Please help, I am very worried for my baby!

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Old 06-14-2015, 10:29 AM
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Have you ever considered getting her a friend ? I don't know how much time you currently spend with her, but single bird's need to have interaction with their human daily for mental well being....

Have you checked out this thread Yet....https://talkbudgies.com/general-budgi...-new-post.html
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The differences between vomiting and regurgitating is that one is voluntary, the other just comes up suddenly. If she is bobbing her head for a while, then spits up some whole seed, she's regurgitating. If she just suddenly spits up seed and some liquid, she's vomiting.
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If it is regurgitating and not vomiting, in my opinion everything you have said points to a frustrated and bored little budgie. Her age, summer approaching, her reaction to the birds outside and even perhaps trying to join them. I agree with Randy that considering a friend might be in order. Just as some want to be top bird on their own, some birds will crave avian company however strong our bond is with them.

I do hope you get to the bottom of this and some peace can be found for poor Pixie.
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Oh I interact with her daily! I am determined in getting her fully tame and am establishing a greater relationship with her. She is much less scared of my mother and I. Also, right now I'm afraid i cannot get another budgie because of the expenses, extra care, housing, etc. Pixie is enough for me right now <3

The reason I am not sure if she vomits or regurgitates is because she does bob her head but then she shakes it everywhere and it is not controlled (she doesn't do it to any object I believe). That could just be that she doesn't know what to do with the food she has in her mouth? I don't know.

But should I keep the branch in the room? I'm happy it encourages her to come out, but she is obsessed with it and like I said is restless to come out when she's in her cage now.
Would moving her to a different room for normal housing the rest of the day but having playtime in this room with the branch be a bad idea?
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Old 06-14-2015, 03:59 PM
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It sounds like regurgitating to me. Have you read the article from the link left for you earlier in the post? The critical point here I think is what is coming out of her mouth.

By daily, that obviously doesn't mean attention every waking hour but I believe it does mean regular attention throughout the day for a lone budgie. I have a single widower called Benedict in one room on his own because his new friends to be are still in quarantine in another room. I am lucky that my working hours are very flexible, so I make a point of ensuring he sees me and talk to him as many times during the day as possible. In fact I am having to skit between rooms to give them all attention!

Another tip is that they don't have to stay in the same room. If I am doing something in the kitchen for example I will often take Benedict in too, in his cage. They do love activity and noise around them.

There is no hard and fast rule for all this, but I aim to ensure that so long as he is still single I will never be out of his sight for more than 3 hours during the day. During the "no me" time I make sure his radio is on and he is positioned so he can actually see the outdoor bird activity. It works for him, he is content.

These are only suggestions, as I have no idea about your in and out of your home timings and activity, or how your home is organised and positioned. But one thing is for sure, they need activity around them and attention!

I hope that some of this is helpful!
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Thank you very much Simon, you are so helpful!
I do bring her down often into the family room to interact with my grandparents and TV ^^
She basically bobs her head but the undigested seeds go everywhere and it doesn't look very controlled. I'm hoping she's okay!
Also, are there any things you enjoy especially with your birds that they seem to like? Because so far I am still mastering the "step up" command (she does step up but only half the time and for a short while). I am not sure what else I can do as far as interaction goes until that action is mastered other than head scratches.
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Well, I beg to differ. From your description it really seems your Pixie has been vomiting...
Budgies when regurgitating will bob their heads and then the seeds they will bring up will be clumped together by the budgie's saliva and this is directed to either a toy they love or their same species mate that will proceed by accepting the food.

When a budgie vomits, it also starts by some head bobbing, but the seed comes flying out of the beak in an uncontrolled and more violent way, and the seeds are all scattered and not clumped together. You can find the undigested seed everywhere on the cage, like the cage's bars, on toys and even on the budgie itself.
During a vomiting episode, fluid not always comes out alongside the seed.
The budgie can have a cleaned up appearance after vomiting while other times it can have fluid on the chest and head/face area.
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Well, voice of real experience there that I certainly wouldn't argue with. I would think your best course will be to revisit the vet, or if he is not a specialist find an avian vet and get to the bottom of this vomitting.
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Well, voice of real experience there that I certainly wouldn't argue with. I would think your best course will be to revisit the vet, or if he is not a specialist find an avian vet and get to the bottom of this vomitting.
Unfortunately, I do know what I'm talking about because in the near past I have dealt with one of my beloved pet budgies that had serious bouts of vomiting every few months, and sadly I know very well all stages and how it goes. Due to this I can distinguish very well between vomiting and healthy regurgitation.
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