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RavensGryf 06-14-2015 04:48 PM

Just curious
 
Hi all, I am having a question now after seeing pics of two budgies from different owners (not on this forum) who claim they are boys. For reasons of common courtesy I don't want to post other people's pictures. I know them pretty well so I'm sure they'd let me if I asked, but I don't think my question at this point requires a pic ;)

I am 99.9% sure they are both greywings. Don't mature greywing males have a normal blue cere? These two birds have light colored ceres. Not the chalky white you usually see in females, but like a uniform color VERY light tan. Lighter tan than a female in breeding condition. Or, is there any mutation that looks similar to a greywing where the males don't develop the blue cere? They are not recessive pied. One is a dominant pied olive looks like.

aluz 06-14-2015 04:57 PM

Greywing males have normal royal blue ceres upon reaching maturity.
There could only have a slight difference in colour if they were split for recessive pied.
My Luigi who is a greywing most certainly have recessive pied genes (both parents are split to it) due to his pink feet and the fact that his cere isn't really royal blue in colour, his cere has kept the dark purplish colour common on a immature 5 month old budgie.

Light tan, like a more creamy whitish colour means female, so those budgies are both females. The ceres go from white and start to get a light tan colour that progressively intensifies and gradually turns into the dark brown colour when reaching breeding condition.

RavensGryf 06-15-2015 12:15 AM

Thanks! I'll have pics tomorrow. I told her to take them with natural light. Now the owner is curious ;). Also, that way you can confirm mutation too :).

aluz 06-15-2015 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RavensGryf (Post 3003473)
Thanks! I'll have pics tomorrow. I told her to take them with natural light. Now the owner is curious ;). Also, that way you can confirm mutation too :).

I'll be glad to help! :)

RavensGryf 06-15-2015 04:51 PM

Thanks... Well, since you guys have confirmed that greywings have normal ceres, and I know that one is not a baby, she does have a female ;). Just want to confirm the "light green greywing" and not some other dilute or something.

Also have the owner of the other ones curious too lol. I think he also has a "boy" who is really a girl. He also wants mutation ID too ;).

They both said they'd get me clearer pics in natural light...


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