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Old 06-18-2015, 06:03 AM
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She's not terribly overweight, but it's something to do something about while i've caught the issue.
I read up that if you have trouble feeling their keel bone, then they're getting on the heavy side.
As with Daesyl, I can just barely feel it when stroking her normally, but it's a bit squidgy around there.

I've slowly been introducing her to pellets now, too. They've been on offer for a couple of weeks now, and she's tried them... And by try them I mean pick them up, have a taste, then spit them right out again, but only when I offer by hand. And she's only ever eaten some properly when i've ground them down into smaller bits.

She's got plenty of fresh veggies, and she flies around a lot. I think her main problem is just liking seeds too much. She's had a lot of millet spray recently, so that may be it as well.

And as for other issues, she will not touch her cuttlebone unless I offer it to her myself. Or her mineral block. She won't touch that one whatever I do.

I think it's time to try and get her to eat pellets properly now. She more than knows that they're food, but she seems too hooked on seeds, and not too sure how to handle the pellets (unless they're broken down a bit smaller)

My initial plan is to start to ration her seeds, but keep plenty of everything else on offer, and see if I can get her to fly a bit more.

As for anything beyond that, especially with her cuttlebone and mineral block I'm a bit stumped and some advice would be fantastic.

On a positive note, though, her new toys arrived and she's pretty curious! so that's a good sign!

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Old 06-18-2015, 06:56 AM
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You don't need to worry about Daesyl not touching the cuttlebone nor the mineral block.
When her body needs the calcium and minerals, she will make good use of them.
It seems like you have a good diet plan for her and I wish you good luck!

My flock doesn't get millet spray, not even as a treat since it is too fattening and I would rather have them eating the proper sugar free budgie seed mix I have them on.
The only exception where I will offer millet spray is for my breeding pairs that are raising their young and for my weaning chicks. Any new arrival will also get a whole spray of millet on the quarantine cage on the first day home.

EDIT: I forgot to mention I also offer millet spray when one of my pet birds is sick and with general lack of appetite.
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The only way to control weight in any animal (including humans) is to limit calories and/or increase exercise. In the case of an overweight budgie, providing unlimited access to a variety of foods can be the cause. They'll eat the high fat junk food first which is highest in calories and as in the case of my budgies, lead to the lack of impulse control when it comes to eating. They get fatter, exercise less, and the cycle begins. One of my budgies got so fat he couldn't fly, and was having trouble walking, but would still pull himself up onto the food bowl with his beak to chow down.

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I agree a varied diet is the best choice, I offer as much fresh greens and grass try to buy the finch pellets these are smaller and easier for the budgies to eat.
The cuttle bone and mineral blocks will be nibbled when their bodies are lacking, take things slowly and patience is the key as with most subjects relating to these guys.
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With one or a few, the flock dynamic may not be as strong as with a walk in flight with 20 budgies. The flock leader will usually set the course and in many big aviaries I have visited there is free access to food as in our aviary/ flight set up.

An active flock will bulk up during cold weather or preparing for breeding our birds slow eating in the heat of a summer in south Georgia. For us it is important to allow our flock to be as self governing as possible. We do not allow isolating a particular bird by the flock. We bring such a bird in side to check for illness or injury. Our indoor birds get more individual care as needed. We provide fresh veggies, extra small size pellets or grind in a food processor and make part of soft food/ egg food combo we provide. We have planit/ canning jar gravity feeders with a mix of roudybush nibbles and base seedmix of canary/red and white millet oat groats and add extra flax when everybody is molting. We do provide small amount of special finch with all of those tastey fat seeds. We provide millet spray weekly in the flights and daily for breeders / families and ill or recovering birds. We like to use nutraberries for treats/conversion situations and Whole grain vegetable pasta as well. Our Apollo, has his own partial spoon full of plain grits with me at breakfast on occasion. It is important to supply as many different food/ toy/travel/ mini vet exam experiences as possible. Our birds tend to be robust and curious because we chalenge Them from the chick stage to adult and they take this experience to the adult flights where the flock leader is usually the one who checks out new things before the rest of the flock joins in. The flock leader is the leader/teacher of budgie social structure. This is so important for the balanced emotional status with humans. Budgies are first budgies and then companions with humans. A budgie needs to understand being a budgie. When we take chicks away from the flock too early they can act up in ways that make us humans unhappy. Exposure to parents and other adult budgies makes a world of difference over the life of a budgie.they are more responsive to strange people if they have confidence in the social structure of flock and their humans.

I know this sound crazy. But we had an example just yesterday when one of our breeder friends stopped by and we sent several specially selected budgies to special homes Even a 2011 bird going to a special home was calm and curious while being handled by strangers looking for special socializing skills. An older gentle bird can be just the right fit. The younger birds have to deal with growth spurts and hormone issues which become less intense in an older bird. Especially when an older bird has lost a mate, a mature replacement can be a better fit. Try having interactive exercise with your pudgie budgie and reduce gradually the more fattening parts of the diet but don't take the candy totally away! How would you feel if your ice cream was taken away? these are little beings and we need to honor this. We try redirecting before we flat out take something away unless it is directly harmful like poison or a dangerous toy. then we try to substitute.

Those who have not identified a flock leader. put a new toy or treat in the flight and then sit back and watch which bird/birds investigate first. If a flock leader is lost there is a void that needs to be filled and the flock may be a bit
disrupted so try to be a little more patient till the leadership is reestablished.

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Agreed with everything, it's awesome your conscious about her diet.
As for her not liking pellets, what kind are you introducing to her? She might learn to like them eventually, and once the ratio of pellets is more than the seeds, she'll have to learn to like them, I guess
I have a diva too and she took ages to take to her pellets, but now she likes them
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i too am trying to switch my budgie to harrison pellets...tbh its such a pain to get them to eat it if i go through (go through meaning throw away from daily waste) the entire pack of harrisons and she still doesn't want to eat it, i will stick to the vitakraft vitasmart complete nutrition packet that i am feeding her...she seems to like it a lot, and i figure its miles ahead of the stuff at walmart and other places, also it says it has all the nutrients they need and its a high diversity packet (has seeds, pellets and all kinds of little stick things)

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