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Old 06-25-2015, 05:30 PM
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It appears my little Lera is gravid. I noticed a bump above her vent yesterday. She is behaving/eating normally (flying around at the moment). Her poops do seem a teeny bit larger and not as frequent.
I'm not breeding my budgies. Have never seen her mating (though she does have a boyfriend - Harvey). I've been doing lots of reading up on egg laying, but can't find anything at all on how long before you notice the "egg bum" until the egg emerges. I worry about her becoming egg bound (in which case, off to the vet immediately).

Can anyone let me know how long it would be before the egg comes? Or have any words of advice?

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Michelle,

EDIT FOR CLARITY AFTER READING RESPONSES OF FORUM BREEDERS:
The information I originally found on the internet and provided with regard how long it takes for the egg to be laid once you can tell the hen is going to lay was not correct. [My apologies, Michelle ]

Please go by the advice of our expert breeder who indicate the correct timing is 1 1/2 to two days.


Has your hen been chewing more on her cuttlebone lately?

I'm sure you give your budgies a healthy diet. Does she receive a calcium supplement and Vitamin D supplement as well?

I will flag your post to bring it to the other TB Staff's attention and ask that one of the staff who have breeding experience weigh in on your thread.
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Deborah - Thank you so much! I was thinking after 2 days, she might be egg bound. So this is a relief. I've been scouring the internet and have not been able to find anything about the time period between when you notice the bump and when the egg comes out. There's a lot of information about how long until the egg hatches, etc., but not that.

Lera is subject to health problems (an episode where she lost her balance and an overgrown beak), so I want to make sure everything is progressing normally. I've read too many scary thing about egg bound budgies.

She does chew on her cuttlebone. We also have some calcium perches and a toy with calcium chews. And I've given her some liquid calcium as well.

Here's a photo - the bump looks a little bigger in person.
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Michelle,

I've send PMs to some staff and also some members who are breeders to try to get some advice and help for you.
I can certainly understand your concern and wish I could do more.

Hopefully you should begin getting some responses soon.
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After I see egg bum in my hens, 2 days.

Sorry not so much help.

First egg always few days.
after that 2 days apart.
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I actually looked up a while back how long it should take for an egg to be made and then laid. According to the internet, an egg is developed in 2 days. ((which explains why they lay one every other day.))

So, from conception of the egg, till it's laid, is roughly 2 days, however, I have seen this egg bum on one of my girls before and she didn't lay it for 3 days. After 3 days, I'd get a bowl of warm/hot water ((not to hot, but hot enough to relax her muscles)) and let her bathe in it. it may relax the muscle enough to make it easier to get it out.

First before doing that though, you may want to get some liquid calcium and put it in her water immediately. It won't hurt her, but will only help her. You may also want to bring the humidity up in the room. She looks kind of dry, if it's to dry it's harder to get the egg's out.
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Thank you Elma and JW for your insight!!
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From my experience it can take quite a few days from the time I spot the first signs of swelling on the vent (as days goes by the swelling increases till it's time for them to lay) till the hen lays the egg (I mean the first egg in a clutch). Once the clutch starts they do lay as a norm one egg every other day.

Your budgie looks good from that pic and it's too soon to worry about egg binding. If you have her in a healthy diet and she has unlimited access to a calcium source, then chances are really low that she would have any trouble in passing the egg.

There is no need to place a nesting area for her, in fact it's best to not do so since you don't really want more eggs. Removing the egg and not letting the bird to sit on the egg will not turn a bird into a chronic egg layer.
You can throw her off the brooding laying mood by doing a total cage makeover or even better by moving her into a completely different cage. Personally I use this method with my breeding hens and it works like a charm, their laying cycle is interrupted with little to no effort.
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I am going to disagree about the calcium. More is definately not better. Too much calcium can actually cause the egg to be slightly rough on the surface and make it more difficult to pass and if you are going to let the egg hatch the baby will have difficulty getting out as the shell will be too hard and thick.

Calcium is one of the minerals that can be a real problem if overdosed with it.

If she is eating the cuttlebone and calcium perches I would not be giving her the liquid calcium as well. As long as she is getting Vitamin D which is essential for the absorption of the calcium. Vitamin D is obtained from direct sunlight (meaning it does not go through anything including glass, perspex, plastic etc.) or by a Vitamin D supplement.

Also if she is eating a pellet diet, that has added calcium, so she should not need any calcium supplements at all, maybe just some cuttlebone.

Hard rough shells are one of the main causes of egg binding.
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I agree with you, Kate. In fact I have never even needed to supplement any of my birds with liquid calcium. Their diet and the cuttlefish bone (or calcium block if I'm out of cuttlebone) are more than enough for all their needs.
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